Re: [Sidrops] [WG ADOPTION] draft-yan-sidrops-roa-considerations - 04/16/2021

Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> Tue, 30 March 2021 19:52 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Sidrops] [WG ADOPTION] draft-yan-sidrops-roa-considerations - 04/16/2021
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> I have been thinking of proposing extensions to the publication
> protocol (RFC 8181) to make Publication Servers somewhat more
> responsible.  For example they could enforce quota both in terms of
> number of files, and size. They could also verify objects, e.g. only
> allow known types, and only allow objects which at least parse.

why?  we need more complexity to give misconfigurations, bugs, weaseling
on specifications, etc. more places to hide?

> The problem is that a delegated CA may not find out that a parent has
> shrunk their resources until whenever it happens to send them a
> "Resource Class List Request" as defined in RFC 6492

my memory is that the child is expected to Resource Class Query before
doing anything with resources it assumes it still has.

randy

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