Re: [Sidrops] ASPA: Is this really a leak?

Jay Borkenhagen <jayb@braeburn.org> Wed, 16 December 2020 16:40 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Sidrops] ASPA: Is this really a leak?
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Jakob Heitz \(jheitz\) writes:
 > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sidrops-aspa-verification-06
 > finds suspected leaky AS paths.

No, not really.

draft-ietf-sidrops-aspa-verification rejects routes whose AS_PATHs are
contra-indicated by the expressed wishes of the AS resource-holders,
as communicated by the set of validated ASPA records.

It's thus up to each party publishing ASPA records to ensure that all
necessary upstream and mutual transit relationships are explicitly
authorized.

						Jay B.