Re: [Sidrops] WGLC - draft-ietf-sidrops-validating-bgp-speaker - ENDS 09/07/2018 - Sept 7th 2018

Daniel Kopp <daniel.kopp@de-cix.net> Thu, 06 September 2018 13:21 UTC

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From: Daniel Kopp <daniel.kopp@de-cix.net>
To: Job Snijders <job@ntt.net>
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Subject: Re: [Sidrops] WGLC - draft-ietf-sidrops-validating-bgp-speaker - ENDS 09/07/2018 - Sept 7th 2018
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> On 5. Sep 2018, at 09:34, Job Snijders <job@ntt.net> wrote:
> 
> I have to ask, (given the author's affiliations) - if this draft is
> published as an RFC, will you turn back the clock and start propagating
> invalid route announcements to your customers (marked with an extended
> community)? 

It’s not turning back the clocks. There is no origin validation at DE-CIX yet and as far as I know, DE-CIX wanted the draft to drive the implementation.
Moreover the draft defines the different modes of operations, so as far as I know also AMS-IX wants to add the tagging to their current implementation.

Kind regards,
Daniel