Re: [Sidrops] Block ROA creation for AS23456?

Yang Yu <yang.yu.list@gmail.com> Thu, 18 May 2017 18:33 UTC

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To: "Carlos M. Martinez" <carlosm3011@gmail.com>, Roque Gagliano <rogaglia@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [Sidrops] Block ROA creation for AS23456?
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Is there a legitimate use of AS23456 ROA?

 >rfc7115 section 6
Routers that perform RPKI-based origin validation must support Four- 
octet AS Numbers (see [RFC6793]), as, among other things, it is not 
reasonable to generate ROAs for AS 23456.


Yang


On 05/18/2017 08:51 AM, Carlos M. Martinez wrote:
> Indeed. This should be an RP’s call to make IMO.
> 
> On 18 May 2017, at 9:51, Roque Gagliano (rogaglia) wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> I would be more inclined to let the RP to solve it. Maybe with a 
>> switch to “ignore-roas-with-reserved-asn-other-than-0” and let that to 
>> be a SP decision to turn it ON/OFF with maybe the default to be to 
>> ignore them.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Roque
>>
>>
>>
>> —
>> Roque Gagliano
>> Tail-f Solutions Architect Southern Europe
>> +41 76 449 8867
>>
>>
>> On 18/05/17 14:31, "Alex Band" <alexb@ripe.net> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi Roque,
>>
>>     We’re only talking about actively preventing creation of the ROA 
>> under the CA.
>>
>>     Cheers,
>>
>>     Alex
>>
>>
>>     > On 18 May 2017, at 14:25, Roque Gagliano (rogaglia) 
>> <rogaglia@cisco.com> wrote:
>>     >
>>     > Hi Alex,
>>     >
>>     > Are we talking about the CA should prevent creation and/or the 
>> RP should ignore it when validating?
>>     >
>>     > Roque
>>     >
>>     > ----- Reply message -----
>>     > From: "Alex Band" <alexb@ripe.net>
>>     > To: "sidrops@ietf.org" <sidrops@ietf.org>
>>     > Subject: [Sidrops] Block ROA creation for AS23456?
>>     > Date: Thu, May 18, 2017 13:42
>>     >
>>     > Hello SidrOps folks,
>>     >
>>     > One of our members argues that we should be preventing that ROAs 
>> are created which authorise AS23456, as referred to in RFC6793 [1]. It 
>> would allegedly open up possibilities for abuse. You could make the 
>> same argument for several other special registry AS Numbers [2].
>>     >
>>     > I’m curious to hear if you think this argument holds any truth, 
>> and if we should be thinking about such measures.
>>     >
>>     > Cheers,
>>     >
>>     > Alex Band
>>     > Product Manager
>>     > RIPE NCC
>>     >
>>     > [1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6793
>>     > [2] 
>> https://www.iana.org/assignments/iana-as-numbers-special-registry/iana-as-numbers-special-registry.xhtml 
>>
>>
>>
>>
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