Re: [Sidrops] proposal to update SIDROPS charter (requirement for multiple implementations before IESG/RFC publication)

Joel Jaeggli <> Wed, 09 December 2020 23:12 UTC

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On 12/9/20 05:24, Tim Bruijnzeels wrote:



>> In the current charter sidrops does not intend to produce standards track documents, with IETF and working group consensus being output as BCPs when the weight of demonstrating consensus is required. 
>>  That is a challenge in the case of for example
>> And one that should probably be more explicitly included if we are amending the charter. If we take on the protocol specification maintenance here there absolutely we should require interoperable implementation for standards advancement.
>> requirements text around interoperability testing is good, but it needs be expanded a little to let us do the protocol maintenance, which we generally would have ascribed to IDR under the original charter.
>> I hope the current AD will revist this.
> I believe that it would be good to extend the sidrops charter to allow it to produce standard tracks documents *and* require two implementations for that track.
> While in case of ASPA one could still argue that this could also be discussed in IDR (or perhaps just be discussed there as well), I think there is other work here that is not suitable for IDR. It may not be routing related (see the RTA document for which adoption was requested), or talk about the RPKI infrastructure itself (mft-bis / deprecate-rsync / ..future work).

I tend to agree, charters are meant to be amended when taking on new work.

> Tim