Re: [Sidrops] Ben Campbell's No Objection on draft-ietf-sidrops-rtr-keying-03: (with COMMENT)

Randy Bush <> Wed, 23 January 2019 04:31 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Sidrops] Ben Campbell's No Objection on draft-ietf-sidrops-rtr-keying-03: (with COMMENT)
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on the issue of uploading private keys.  how the wg got where we are.
essentially, we made the mistake of letting operators in.

it's 2am.  the bleeping device melted.  a new key generated by a
replacement device will take a good while to get into the rpki and then
many more hours to get into everybody's bgpsec validation key caches
around the planet [ask geoff why he insisted he did not have to publish
more frequently than once a day].  and by 3am, people with shiny shoes
will be giving the op snake eyes that customers in tiblisi can't give
them money online right now.  when the op tells them it will be tomorrow
afternoon, it is usually referred to as a resume generating event.