Re: [Sidrops] Agenda for Virtual Interim Meeting 28 April 2020
Tim Bruijnzeels <tim@nlnetlabs.nl> Sat, 25 April 2020 12:38 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Sidrops] Agenda for Virtual Interim Meeting 28 April 2020
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Hi, > On 24 Apr 2020, at 19:44, Nathalie Trenaman <nathalie@ripe.net> wrote: > > <snip /> > > 4) Tim Bruijnzeels - [15 minutes] > Deprecating rsync Draft > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sidrops-bruijnzeels-deprecate-rsync/ I just posted a new version of the document. Major changes: - Randy Bush and George Michaelson became co-authors - Phased plan is made much more concrete - Includes suggested updates to RFCs for each phase We may find it useful to separate the document into a plan, and implementation for each phase, but for now this can hopefully serve to have a structured discussion. Slides will be sent to Nathalie and the co-chairs in time, I promise :) Abstract if you don't feel like clicking the link: This document formulates a plan of a phased transition to a state where RPKI repositories and Relying Party software performing RPKI Validation will use the RPKI Repository Delta Protocol (RRDP) [RFC8182] as the only mandatory to implement access protocol. In short this plan consists of the following phases. In phase 0, today's deployment, RRDP is supported by most, but not all Repositories, and most but not all RP software. In the proposed phase 1 RRDP will become mandatory to implement for Repositories, in addition to rsync. This phase can start as soon as this document is published. Once the proposed updates are implemented by all Repositories phase 2 will start. In this phase RRDP will become mandatory to implement for all RP software, and rsync must no longer be used. Measurements will need to be done to help determine when it will be safe to transition to the final phase of this plan. During this phase Repositories will no longer be required to provide rsync access for RPKI validation purposes. However, they may still provide rsync access for direct access to files for other purposes, if desired, at a best effort basis. Although this document currently includes descriptions and updates to RFCs for each of these phases, we may find that it will be beneficial to have separate documents for the plan, and each phase, so that it might be more clear to all when the updates to RFCs take effect. > > > 5) Massimiliano Stucchi - [15 minutes] > AS-Cones Draft > > https://max.stucchi.ch/drafts/draft-ietf-grow-rpki-as-cones.html > > > Thanks, > Nathalie > > > _______________________________________________ > Sidrops mailing list > Sidrops@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sidrops
- [Sidrops] Agenda for Virtual Interim Meeting 28 A… Nathalie Trenaman
- Re: [Sidrops] Agenda for Virtual Interim Meeting … Tim Bruijnzeels
- Re: [Sidrops] Agenda for Virtual Interim Meeting … Alexander Azimov