Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing variability
Robert Kisteleki <robert@ripe.net> Wed, 15 April 2020 10:37 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing variability
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Hi, >>> I probably should have said that an RP views an object as "missing" if >>> the the object is not present in the RP's cache and cannot be retrieved >>> from the relevant PP. Because RPs retrieve objects only if the objects >>> have changed (newly added or updated), an RP would not be aware that an >>> object is not present at a PP if the object is present in the RP's >>> cache. I recall a famous quote about whether an object that has not been >>> updated makes any noise when it is deleted from a PP, or something like >>> that :-) >> rsync has a flag (--delete) where it literally syncs, ie. not only >> fetches new/updated objects but also removes the local ones that no >> longer exist remotely. (Either this, or some other processes have to do >> cleanup, otherwise the local copy accumulates objects eternally.) > > I forgot about the --delete flag. But, if one chooses to make use of the > flag, it requires caution. if an attacker deleted files and an RP > removed instances of those files from the local cache, this is an easy > DoS attack. One would have to see if there is a current manifest and if > it lists files that have been deleted from the PP. Only if there is a > current manifest, and the deleted files are also not present in the > manifest, would it be safe to delete those files. I agree. However, that's not the practice today. Which is why I latched on to your proposal and I'm trying to highlight that we should cover this. Cheers, Robert
- [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing variabili… Stephen Kent
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Job Snijders
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Stephen Kent
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Job Snijders
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Robert Kisteleki
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Martin Hoffmann
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Stephen Kent
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Di Ma
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Robert Kisteleki
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Claudio Jeker
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Stephen Kent
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Robert Kisteleki
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Martin Hoffmann
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Job Snijders
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Stephen Kent
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Stephen Kent
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Martin Hoffmann
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Di Ma
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Job Snijders
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Martin Hoffmann
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Claudio Jeker
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Tim Bruijnzeels
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Tim Bruijnzeels
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Jay Borkenhagen
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Randy Bush
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Robert Kisteleki
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Martin Hoffmann
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Tim Bruijnzeels
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Martin Hoffmann
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Martin Hoffmann
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Randy Bush
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Stephen Kent
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Stephen Kent
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Stephen Kent
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Job Snijders
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Claudio Jeker
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Martin Hoffmann
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Martin Hoffmann
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Randy Bush
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Stephen Kent
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Stephen Kent
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… George Michaelson
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Tim Bruijnzeels
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Martin Hoffmann
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Martin Hoffmann
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Randy Bush
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Stephen Kent
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Rob Austein
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Job Snijders
- Re: [Sidrops] trying to limit RP processing varia… Stephen Kent