Re: [Sidrops] proposed, revised text for Section 6

Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> Tue, 05 May 2020 04:33 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Sidrops] proposed, revised text for Section 6
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> I just want to note that while I think you made a logically consistent
> choice, I do not agree with its intent, in as much as I believe cached
> state could be used to construct the valid state which the manifest
> and CRL declare.
> 
> So, I think you drove to a harder place than I intended. But, I accept
> this is a choice, and a strong choice.
> 
> I suspect I am in a minority of one on this. I would not seek to
> impede a group decision driving to a more narrow constrained
> definition.

sra has bludgeoned me much closer to your position

randy