Re: [Sidrops] WGLC - draft-ietf-sidrops-validating-bgp-speaker - ENDS 09/07/2018 - Sept 7th 2018

Job Snijders <job@ntt.net> Wed, 05 September 2018 15:06 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Sidrops] WGLC - draft-ietf-sidrops-validating-bgp-speaker - ENDS 09/07/2018 - Sept 7th 2018
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Hi,

As an experiment, can FranceIX and DE-CIX propagate a more-specific of the
AMS-IX peering LAN prefix via their route servers (but clearly mark it with
an extended community). This way, all the authors’ organizations, can make
observations on customer feedback.

In the hours that follow we can perhaps learn of the consequences of
willingly propagating RPKI invalid route announcements.

This would be a repeat of the incident that happenend at DE-CIX on December
5th, 2017. I hope people still remember.

Kind regards,

Job


On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 at 16:56, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:

> > As Job suggested, the majority of ixp route servers run BIRD, and
> > taking the example you mention, one of BIRD's known limitations is
> > that it does not handle revalidation.
>
> then it is pretty much useless.
>
> > Another limitation would be that it doesn't handle aggregators as the
> > last element in the as path.
>
> don't care.  they're irrelevant.
>
> randy
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