Re: [Sidrops] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-sidrops-rpki-tree-validation-02

Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> Sat, 04 August 2018 17:06 UTC

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> why the implementation description has to be an RFC? clog up the RFCs

because this is engineering, not academic research; no requirement for
original contribution.  having the workings of a protocol implementation
well documented helps others interoperate, gives them ideas for their
own implementations, ...  we have a long trail of vendorX's
implementation of coffee ice cream.  it is helpful.

< insert snark comparison to 342 'bright ideas' about how to get one's
  name on an rfc for useless work >

randy