Re: [Sidrops] Reason for Outage report (was: Re: ARIN RPKI Service Impact - 12 August 2020 - manifest issue - resolved)
Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> Fri, 28 August 2020 14:56 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Sidrops] Reason for Outage report (was: Re: ARIN RPKI Service Impact - 12 August 2020 - manifest issue - resolved)
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> If a CA's publication point's RPKI data is invalid "invalid" is already an overloaded magic word in this space; not cryptographically validatable up to a TA, and bgp announcement not finding a matching roa. can we come up with another term for a failed (for many reasons) fetch of a PP's data? > a Relying Party MUST add all IP address resources listed on the > certificate's issuer what certificate? > to a Prefix Filter what is a prefix filter? > The Relying party MUST consider any VRPs an RP cache knows if a PP was not fetchable, but does not have any VRPs (yet), just ROAs. a router has VRPs, but has no idea what happened between the RP cache and the PPs it tried to fetch. i suspect this whole thing is a capybara hole we just do not want to explore, especially when we have software out there which is <bleep>. though i would not mind looking at a concise and simple statement of what it is you're trying to do here. but do consider the PPs of a CA whose INRs are delegated from multiple parents, and which, in turn, delegates to other CA(s). randy
- [Sidrops] Reason for Outage report (was: Re: ARIN… John Curran
- [Sidrops] ARIN RPKI Service Impact - 12 August 20… John Curran
- Re: [Sidrops] ARIN RPKI Service Impact - 12 Augus… Christopher Morrow
- Re: [Sidrops] ARIN RPKI Service Impact - 12 Augus… John Curran
- Re: [Sidrops] ARIN RPKI Service Impact - 12 Augus… Randy Bush
- Re: [Sidrops] ARIN RPKI Service Impact - 12 Augus… Job Snijders
- Re: [Sidrops] ARIN RPKI Service Impact - 12 Augus… John Curran
- Re: [Sidrops] Reason for Outage report (was: Re: … Job Snijders
- Re: [Sidrops] Reason for Outage report (was: Re: … Martin Hoffmann
- Re: [Sidrops] Reason for Outage report (was: Re: … Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [Sidrops] Reason for Outage report (was: Re: … John Curran
- Re: [Sidrops] Reason for Outage report Martin Hoffmann
- Re: [Sidrops] Reason for Outage report (was: Re: … Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [Sidrops] Reason for Outage report Mikael Abrahamsson
- [Sidrops] weak validation is unfit for production… Job Snijders
- Re: [Sidrops] Reason for Outage report (was: Re: … Tim Bruijnzeels
- Re: [Sidrops] Reason for Outage report (was: Re: … Jakob Heitz (jheitz)
- Re: [Sidrops] Reason for Outage report (was: Re: … Randy Bush
- Re: [Sidrops] weak validation is unfit for produc… Benno Overeinder
- Re: [Sidrops] weak validation is unfit for produc… Tim Bruijnzeels
- Re: [Sidrops] Reason for Outage report (was: Re: … Tim Bruijnzeels
- Re: [Sidrops] Reason for Outage report (was: Re: … Randy Bush
- Re: [Sidrops] Reason for Outage report (was: Re: … Tim Bruijnzeels
- Re: [Sidrops] Reason for Outage report (was: Re: … Tim Bruijnzeels
- Re: [Sidrops] weak validation is unfit for produc… Stephen Kent
- Re: [Sidrops] weak validation is unfit for produc… Stephen Kent
- Re: [Sidrops] Reason for Outage report (was: Re: … Job Snijders
- Re: [Sidrops] weak validation is unfit for produc… Tim Bruijnzeels
- Re: [Sidrops] Reason for Outage report (was: Re: … Randy Bush
- Re: [Sidrops] weak validation is unfit for produc… Job Snijders
- Re: [Sidrops] weak validation is unfit for produc… Lukas Tribus
- Re: [Sidrops] weak validation is unfit for produc… Nathalie Trenaman
- Re: [Sidrops] weak validation is unfit for produc… Job Snijders
- Re: [Sidrops] weak validation is unfit for produc… Stephen Kent
- Re: [Sidrops] weak validation is unfit for produc… Tim Bruijnzeels