Re: [Sidrops] WG-ADOPTION: draft-borchert-sidrops-rpki-state-unverified-01 - ENDS: 2019-03-12 (mar 12)
"Montgomery, Douglas (Fed)" <dougm@nist.gov> Thu, 28 February 2019 16:15 UTC
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From: "Montgomery, Douglas (Fed)" <dougm@nist.gov>
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Subject: Re: [Sidrops] WG-ADOPTION: draft-borchert-sidrops-rpki-state-unverified-01 - ENDS: 2019-03-12 (mar 12)
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Are you saying no one uses the RFC8097 extended community in iBGP? Certainly it is noteworthy when an author objects to his own spec in LC ... although it can be a confusing signal. dougm -- DougM at NIST On 2/27/19, 10:51 PM, "Randy Bush" <randy@psg.com> wrote: > Which of your N hundred routers will you login to, to do the "show bgp > rpki servers"? > > We thought the one sending you "unverified" state would be a good clue. except routers do not send each other the ROV markings. and the n hundred routers probably differ in policy, caches, ... [ i objected to rfc 8097 in the wg and in ietf lc ] randy
- [Sidrops] WG-ADOPTION: draft-borchert-sidrops-rpk… Russ Housley
- Re: [Sidrops] WG-ADOPTION: draft-borchert-sidrops… Russ Housley
- Re: [Sidrops] WG-ADOPTION: draft-borchert-sidrops… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Sidrops] WG-ADOPTION: draft-borchert-sidrops… Montgomery, Douglas (Fed)
- Re: [Sidrops] WG-ADOPTION: draft-borchert-sidrops… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Sidrops] WG-ADOPTION: draft-borchert-sidrops… Randy Bush
- Re: [Sidrops] WG-ADOPTION: draft-borchert-sidrops… Montgomery, Douglas (Fed)
- Re: [Sidrops] WG-ADOPTION: draft-borchert-sidrops… Matthias Waehlisch
- Re: [Sidrops] WG-ADOPTION: draft-borchert-sidrops… Randy Bush
- Re: [Sidrops] WG-ADOPTION: draft-borchert-sidrops… Montgomery, Douglas (Fed)
- Re: [Sidrops] WG-ADOPTION: draft-borchert-sidrops… Randy Bush
- Re: [Sidrops] WG-ADOPTION: draft-borchert-sidrops… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Sidrops] WG-ADOPTION: draft-borchert-sidrops… Job Snijders
- Re: [Sidrops] WG-ADOPTION: draft-borchert-sidrops… Nick Hilliard