Re: [Sidrops] [WG ADOPTION] Adoption call: draft-timbru-sidrops-publication-server-bcp - ENDS 02/08/2024
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Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2024 18:27:29 +0100
From: Job Snijders <job@fastly.com>
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Subject: Re: [Sidrops] [WG ADOPTION] Adoption call: draft-timbru-sidrops-publication-server-bcp - ENDS 02/08/2024
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On Wed, Feb 07, 2024 at 06:01:04PM +0100, Lukas Tribus wrote: > Maybe only slightly related, but any thoughts on using multiple CDN's ? > > In a TAL file we specify a https and a rsync destination, can multiple > https destinations be specified? > > Like: > https://rpki.ripecdn1.net/ta/ripe-ncc-ta.cer > https://rpki.ripecdn2.net/ta/ripe-ncc-ta.cer > https://rpki.ripecdn3.net/ta/ripe-ncc-ta.cer > rsync://rpki.ripe.net/ta/ripe-ncc-ta.cer > > I'd guess that using one FQDN/TLD per CDN would be simpler (cheaper) > to implement (for the PP) as opposed to a "same FQDN/TLD multi-CDN" > setup, but it sounds like it would not actually work today? The TAL file is used at a stage before the RRDP protocol comes into play. The HTTPS/rsync URLs in a TAL point to a 1 kilobyte file (the Trust Anchor certificate). RFC 8630 section 2.2 permits one or more URIs. The example you offered is valid syntax in the TAL file format. The TA operator can use one or more A / AAAA DNS entries to distribute the load across multiple endpoints. An example: $ grep https /etc/rpki/arin.tal https://rrdp.arin.net/arin-rpki-ta.cer $ dig A rrdp.arin.net +short 199.71.0.149 199.5.26.149 199.212.0.149 $ dig AAAA rrdp.arin.net +short 2001:500:31::149 2001:500:13::149 2001:500:a9::149 RRDP can come into play when this self-signed Trust Anchor is downloaded, parsed and validated: $ openssl x509 -in arin-rpki-ta.cer -inform DER -text -noout \ | grep -A3 'Subject Information Access' Subject Information Access: CA Repository - URI:rsync://rpki.arin.net/repository/arin-rpki-ta/ RPKI Manifest - URI:rsync://rpki.arin.net/repository/arin-rpki-ta/arin-rpki-ta.mft RPKI Notify - URI:https://rrdp.arin.net/notification.xml The 'RPKI Notify' accessMethod (id-ad-rpkiNotify) is the entrypoint into RRDP. This element points to the RRDP Notification file. RFC 8182 section 3.2 permits only once instance of id-ad-rpkiNotify. So within the current RRDP specification, multiple different FQDNs / multiple RRDP Notification files can't be done. Kind regards, Job
- [Sidrops] [WG ADOPTION] Adoption call: draft-timb… Chris Morrow
- Re: [Sidrops] [WG ADOPTION] Adoption call: draft-… Tim Bruijnzeels
- Re: [Sidrops] [WG ADOPTION] Adoption call: draft-… Russ Housley
- Re: [Sidrops] [WG ADOPTION] Adoption call: draft-… Di Ma
- Re: [Sidrops] [WG ADOPTION] Adoption call: draft-… Job Snijders
- Re: [Sidrops] [WG ADOPTION] Adoption call: draft-… Ties de Kock
- Re: [Sidrops] [WG ADOPTION] Adoption call: draft-… Hollyman, Michael
- Re: [Sidrops] [WG ADOPTION] Adoption call: draft-… Job Snijders
- Re: [Sidrops] [WG ADOPTION] Adoption call: draft-… Job Snijders
- Re: [Sidrops] [WG ADOPTION] Adoption call: draft-… Tim Bruijnzeels
- Re: [Sidrops] [WG ADOPTION] Adoption call: draft-… Job Snijders
- Re: [Sidrops] [WG ADOPTION] Adoption call: draft-… Tim Bruijnzeels
- Re: [Sidrops] [WG ADOPTION] Adoption call: draft-… Job Snijders
- Re: [Sidrops] [WG ADOPTION] Adoption call: draft-… Lukas Tribus
- Re: [Sidrops] [WG ADOPTION] Adoption call: draft-… Ties de Kock
- Re: [Sidrops] [WG ADOPTION] Adoption call: draft-… Job Snijders
- Re: [Sidrops] [WG ADOPTION] Adoption call: draft-… Ties de Kock
- Re: [Sidrops] [WG ADOPTION] Adoption call: draft-… Claudio Jeker
- Re: [Sidrops] [WG ADOPTION] Adoption call: draft-… Tim Bruijnzeels
- [Sidrops] Re: [WG ADOPTION] Adoption call: draft-… Job Snijders
- [Sidrops] Re: [WG ADOPTION] Adoption call: draft-… Tim Bruijnzeels
- [Sidrops] Re: [WG ADOPTION] Adoption call: draft-… Christopher Morrow