Re: [Simple] SIMPLE and OMA and 3Gpp and RCS and... (new subject)

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 6:22 PM, DRAGE, Keith (Keith) <
keith.drage@alcatel-lucent.com> wrote:

> I think you got the point. I can't help it if you don't think it is an
> issue.
>
[MB] It's to clear to me what point you think Ben got as he lighted there
are two separate things. [/MB]

>
> We'll see if OMA come back or not to test if you are right or wrong.
>
[MB] A message has been sent to OMA that we are not appointing a new
liaison manager:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1213/
If OMA believes that is a problem, then they should reply to the IETF and
we can discuss if there is a need. Since it seems you have a vested
interest in this area, are you willing to serve as the IETF liaison?  One
of the issues when Murray stepped down was that there wasn't an obvious
individual that could take on the role. [/MB]

>
>
> Keith
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ben Campbell [mailto:ben@nostrum.com]
> > Sent: 01 November 2012 23:12
> > To: DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
> > Cc: Hannes Tschofenig; Olle E. Johansson; Bernard Aboba; simple@ietf.org
> > Subject: Re: [Simple] SIMPLE and OMA and 3Gpp and RCS and... (new
> subject)
> >
> >
> > On Nov 1, 2012, at 6:09 PM, Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > On Nov 1, 2012, at 6:00 PM, "DRAGE, Keith (Keith)"
> <keith.drage@alcatel-
> > lucent.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> So I guess that IETF has therefore abandoned RFC 5727.
> > >
> > > I'm trying to figure out how "abandoning 5727" follows from "no liaison
> > manager for OMA". I'm not getting it; can you elaborate?
> > >
> > >>
> > >> OMA last asked for 6 header fields to be registered. As far as I
> > understand they were told they needed a standards track RFC to do this.
> > Identifying no need for cooperation tells me that IETF is quite happy
> they
> > have their own version of the SIP specification.
> > >>
> > >
> > > I don't think choosing not to assign a liaison manager implies we
> expect
> > no cooperation. You don't need an IETF assigned liaison manager to
> someone
> > bring a draft to the IETF, do you?
> >
> > Okay, that was a cut-paste disaster. s/ "to someone bring" / "for someone
> > to bring"
> >
> > >
> > >> Keith
> > >>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: Hannes Tschofenig [mailto:hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net]
> > >>> Sent: 01 November 2012 20:09
> > >>> To: Ben Campbell
> > >>> Cc: Olle E. Johansson; Bernard Aboba; DRAGE, Keith (Keith);
> > >>> simple@ietf.org
> > >>> Subject: Re: [Simple] SIMPLE and OMA and 3Gpp and RCS and... (new
> > subject)
> > >>>
> > >>> Murray was the liaison person to the OMA from the IETF side. Murray
> > >>> recently discontinued his participation in the OMA (due to a job
> > change).
> > >>> We discussed the need to appoint a new liaison person in the IAB and
> > came
> > >>> to the conclusion that no new appointment is necessary; the required
> > need
> > >>> to interact with the OMA had decreased over time.
> > >>>
> > >>> Does anyone on this list believe that there is a need for cooperation
> > with
> > >>> the OMA?
> > >>>
> > >>> Ciao
> > >>> Hannes
> > >>>
> > >>> Sent from my ASUS Pad
> > >>>
> > >>> Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Nov 1, 2012, at 2:20 PM, "Olle E. Johansson" <oej@edvina.net>
> > wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> What is the current relationship betwen OMA and the IETF? ANy
> > >>> cooperation, like between 3Gpp and the IETF?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> There is a liaison, but I don't think it's been very active for a
> > while
> > >>> now.
> > >>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>> Simple mailing list
> > >>>> Simple@ietf.org
> > >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple
> > >
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