Re: [sip-ops] SIP OPTIONS "ping"
"Paul E. Jones" <paulej@packetizer.com> Fri, 13 August 2010 04:37 UTC
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From: "Paul E. Jones" <paulej@packetizer.com>
To: 'Cullen Jennings' <fluffy@cisco.com>, dispatch@ietf.org
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 00:36:41 -0400
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Cc: sip-ops@ietf.org, 'Hadriel Kaplan' <HKaplan@acmepacket.com>
Subject: Re: [sip-ops] SIP OPTIONS "ping"
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Cullen, Thanks for the suggestion. All, Please see the note below. We're seeking advice on how to proceed with the subject draft. Paul > -----Original Message----- > From: Cullen Jennings [mailto:fluffy@cisco.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 11:44 PM > To: Paul E. Jones > Cc: sip-ops@ietf.org; Hadriel Kaplan > Subject: Re: [sip-ops] SIP OPTIONS "ping" > > > I think you discuss how to move forward with this draft on dispatch > mailing list given that's the point of that list is help with problems > like this. > > On Aug 11, 2010, at 22:14 , Paul E. Jones wrote: > > > Folks, > > > > Gonzalo and I produced an Internet Draft aiming at trying to bring some > consistency to the way in which SIP user agents implement an OPTIONS > "ping" procedure. It seems that a very large number of vendors do this, > but unfortunately, there seems to be little consistency. > > > > Initially, we positioned the document as a standards track RFC, since > this essentially builds on RFC 3261. However, there was some pushback > from folks in the IETF for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is > the fact that there is no working group chartered to do the work. We > don't feel this one draft warrants the creation of a working group. > > > > So, we've got three options we can consider: > > 1) Forge ahead outside of a working group > > 2) Change the status of the draft to Informational > > 3) Forget about the draft and let every SIP device do it the way > they want, throwing hope of consistency out the window > > > > (Yeah, you can tell I prefer not to go for the third option.) > > > > In any case, I'd like to get feedback from the on the SIP operators and > SIP implementers lists. Do you think it's worth trying to address this > issue? If so, which option do you think we should pursue? > > > > Note that we're certainly open to feedback on the draft. I'd prefer it > to have a few more "MUST" statements in the text, rather than "SHOULD". > But, we need to find that right balance: > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jones-sip-options-ping > > > > Paul > > > > _______________________________________________ > > sip-ops mailing list > > sip-ops@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip-ops > > > Cullen Jennings > For corporate legal information go to: > http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/index.html >
- [sip-ops] SIP OPTIONS "ping" Paul E. Jones
- Re: [sip-ops] SIP OPTIONS "ping" Brian Rosen
- Re: [sip-ops] SIP OPTIONS "ping" Cullen Jennings
- Re: [sip-ops] [Sip-implementors] SIP OPTIONS "pin… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [sip-ops] SIP OPTIONS "ping" Paul E. Jones
- Re: [sip-ops] SIP OPTIONS "ping" Paul E. Jones
- Re: [sip-ops] [Sip-implementors] SIP OPTIONS "pin… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [sip-ops] [Sip-implementors] SIP OPTIONS "pin… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [sip-ops] [dispatch] [Sip-implementors] SIP O… Michael Miller
- Re: [sip-ops] [dispatch] [Sip-implementors] SIP O… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [sip-ops] [dispatch] [Sip-implementors] SIP O… Michael Miller
- Re: [sip-ops] SIP OPTIONS "ping" Paul E. Jones
- Re: [sip-ops] [dispatch] SIP OPTIONS "ping" Marius Zbihlei