[sip-overload] rate-control and event-package drafts and normative references
"Vijay K. Gurbani" <vkg@bell-labs.com> Tue, 17 December 2013 13:59 UTC
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Subject: [sip-overload] rate-control and event-package drafts and normative references
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Charles, Eric: The Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-soc-overload-control triggered me to check the references of your drafts, especially whether the reference to draft-ietf-soc-overload-control is normative or informative in your drafts. It appears that both the drafts list draft-ietf-soc-overload-control as an informative reference. I believe that this should be changed to a normative reference. The distinction between normative and informative reference is captured in http://www.rfc-editor.org/policy.html#policy.refs From this reading, it appears reasonable that someone wanting to implement either rate-control or event-package will need to read overload-control first. You can ask the chairs for guidance as well, and assuming that you do make the change, you can easily do so before IETF last call or during Auth-48. Thanks, - vijay -- Vijay K. Gurbani, Bell Laboratories, Alcatel-Lucent 1960 Lucent Lane, Rm. 9C-533, Naperville, Illinois 60563 (USA) Email: vkg@{bell-labs.com,acm.org} / vijay.gurbani@alcatel-lucent.com Web: http://ect.bell-labs.com/who/vkg/ | Calendar: http://goo.gl/x3Ogq
- [sip-overload] rate-control and event-package dra… Vijay K. Gurbani
- Re: [sip-overload] rate-control and event-package… Charles Shen
- Re: [sip-overload] rate-control and event-package… Vijay K. Gurbani
- Re: [sip-overload] rate-control and event-package… Charles Shen
- Re: [sip-overload] rate-control and event-package… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [sip-overload] rate-control and event-package… Charles Shen
- Re: [sip-overload] rate-control and event-package… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [sip-overload] rate-control and event-package… Charles Shen