Re: [sip-overload] Local Policy Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-soc-load-control-event-package-05.txt
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Subject: Re: [sip-overload] Local Policy Re: I-D Action:
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I prefer MUST to SHOULD.
The original wording was based on Req 13 of RFC 5390:
" REQ 13: The mechanism must not dictate a specific algorithm for
prioritizing the processing of work within a proxy during times of
overload. It must permit a proxy to prioritize requests based on
any local policy, so that certain ones (such as a call for
emergency services or a call with a specific value of the
Resource-Priority header field [RFC4412]) are given preferential
treatment, such as not being dropped, being given additional
retransmission, or being processed ahead of others."
which has a lower case "must".
If we are going to say "MUST honor" (rather than "must permit"), I think
we need to change "any" to "the" . (you can permit many alternatives, but
you can really only honor one). I think this also reflects the intent of
Martin's comment
So I would prefer
A SIP client MUST honor the local policy for prioritizing SIP
requests such as policies based on message type, e.g., INVITEs vs.
requests associated with existing sessions.
A SIP client MUST honor the local policy for prioritizing SIP
requests based on the content of the Resource-Priority header (RPH,
RFC4412 [RFC4412]). Specific (namespace.value) RPH contents may
indicate high priority requests that should be preserved as much as
possible during overload. The RPH contents can also indicate a
low-priority request that is eligible to be dropped during times of
overload.
A SIP client MUST honor the local policy for prioritizing SIP
requests relating to emergency calls, as identified by the SOS
URN [RFC5031] indicating an emergency request.
Thanks
Janet
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From: "Vijay K. Gurbani" <vkg@bell-labs.com>
To: Charles Shen <charles@cs.columbia.edu>
Cc: "DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" <keith.drage@alcatel-lucent.com>om>, Janet P
Gunn/USA/CSC@CSC, "sip-overload@ietf.org" <sip-overload@ietf.org>rg>, Arata
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Date: 01/03/2013 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [sip-overload] Local Policy Re: I-D Action:
draft-ietf-soc-load-control-event-package-05.txt
On 01/03/2013 07:34 AM, Charles Shen wrote:
> Sounds good, I can update the wording in the event package draft, if
> Vijay is OK with the other one.
I just want to make sure we are all agreeing to the same thing.
It seems to me that the question of using SHOULD versus MUST is being
decided slightly in favour of a MUST. Martin and Bruno prefer a MUST,
Janet is okay with, although her original text used a SHOULD; and Keith
could go either way.
Is the consensus, then, that the text on honoring local policy contains
MUST? If so, the text to be inserted would be the following:
A SIP client MUST honor any local policy for prioritizing SIP
requests such as policies based on message type, e.g., INVITEs vs.
requests associated with existing sessions.
A SIP client MUST honor any local policy for prioritizing SIP
requests based on the content of the Resource-Priority header (RPH,
RFC4412 [RFC4412]). Specific (namespace.value) RPH contents may
indicate high priority requests that should be preserved as much as
possible during overload. The RPH contents can also indicate a
low-priority request that is eligible to be dropped during times of
overload.
A SIP client MUST honor any local policy for prioritizing SIP
requests relating to emergency calls, as identified by the SOS
URN [RFC5031] indicating an emergency request.
Yes?
Thanks,
- vijay
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Vijay K. Gurbani, Bell Laboratories, Alcatel-Lucent
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Email: vkg@{bell-labs.com,acm.org} / vijay.gurbani@alcatel-lucent.com
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- [sip-overload] I-D Action: draft-ietf-soc-load-co… internet-drafts
- Re: [sip-overload] I-D Action: draft-ietf-soc-loa… Charles Shen
- Re: [sip-overload] I-D Action: draft-ietf-soc-loa… NOEL, ERIC (ERIC C)
- Re: [sip-overload] I-D Action: draft-ietf-soc-loa… Janet P Gunn
- Re: [sip-overload] I-D Action: draft-ietf-soc-loa… Charles Shen
- Re: [sip-overload] I-D Action: draft-ietf-soc-loa… bruno.chatras
- Re: [sip-overload] I-D Action: draft-ietf-soc-loa… Charles Shen
- [sip-overload] Local Policy Re: I-D Action: draft… Janet P Gunn
- Re: [sip-overload] Local Policy Re: I-D Action: d… bruno.chatras
- Re: [sip-overload] Local Policy Re: I-D Action: d… DOLLY, MARTIN C
- Re: [sip-overload] Local Policy Re: I-D Action: d… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [sip-overload] Local Policy Re: I-D Action: d… Charles Shen
- Re: [sip-overload] Local Policy Re: I-D Action: d… Vijay K. Gurbani
- Re: [sip-overload] Local Policy Re: I-D Action: d… bruno.chatras
- Re: [sip-overload] Local Policy Re: I-D Action: d… Janet P Gunn
- Re: [sip-overload] Local Policy Re: I-D Action: d… Volker Hilt
- Re: [sip-overload] Local Policy Re: I-D Action: d… Janet P Gunn
- Re: [sip-overload] Local Policy Re: I-D Action: d… Salvatore Loreto
- Re: [sip-overload] Local Policy Re: I-D Action: d… Volker Hilt
- Re: [sip-overload] Local Policy Re: I-D Action: d… Vijay K. Gurbani
- Re: [sip-overload] Local Policy Re: I-D Action: d… Janet P Gunn
- Re: [sip-overload] Local Policy Re: I-D Action: d… Vijay K. Gurbani
- Re: [sip-overload] Local Policy Re: I-D Action: d… Volker Hilt
- Re: [sip-overload] Local Policy Re: I-D Action: d… Salvatore Loreto
- Re: [sip-overload] Local Policy Re: I-D Action: d… Janet P Gunn
- Re: [sip-overload] Local Policy Re: I-D Action: d… Volker Hilt
- Re: [sip-overload] Local Policy Re: I-D Action: d… Janet P Gunn
- Re: [sip-overload] Local Policy Re: I-D Action: d… Volker Hilt
- Re: [sip-overload] Local Policy Re: I-D Action: d… Vijay K. Gurbani
- Re: [sip-overload] Local Policy Re: I-D Action: d… Volker Hilt
- Re: [sip-overload] Local Policy Re: I-D Action: d… Charles Shen
- Re: [sip-overload] Local Policy Re: I-D Action: d… Janet P Gunn
- Re: [sip-overload] Local Policy Re: I-D Action: d… Charles Shen
- Re: [sip-overload] Local Policy Re: I-D Action: d… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [sip-overload] Local Policy Re: I-D Action: d… bruno.chatras
- Re: [sip-overload] Local Policy Re: I-D Action: d… Vijay K. Gurbani
- Re: [sip-overload] Local Policy Re: I-D Action: d… Salvatore Loreto
- Re: [sip-overload] Local Policy Re: I-D Action: d… Volker Hilt
- Re: [sip-overload] Local Policy Re: I-D Action: d… bruno.chatras
- Re: [sip-overload] Local Policy Re: I-D Action: d… Salvatore Loreto
- Re: [sip-overload] Local Policy Re: I-D Action: d… Volker Hilt
- Re: [sip-overload] Local Policy Re: I-D Action: d… Salvatore Loreto
- Re: [sip-overload] Local Policy Re: I-D Action: d… Charles Shen