Re: [sip-overload] draft-ietf-soc-overload-design-05
Janet P Gunn <jgunn6@csc.com> Tue, 19 April 2011 13:40 UTC
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Subject: Re: [sip-overload] draft-ietf-soc-overload-design-05
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ken carlberg <carlberg@g11.org.uk> wrote on 04/19/2011 08:43:31 AM: > > you can't have it both ways. you cannot say that the Namespaces in > rfc4412 are the ones to be used, but that their defined > characteristics (either being queuing or preemption) are inappropriate. > Ken, Consider the circuit switched models from which the RPH concept was derived. With queueing, we queue for trunks, we queue for radio resources. But we do NOT QUEUE in response to SS7 congestion (just a higher level protection from being dropped), nor do we queue in response to call gapping or other network management controls (just exempt from them). That does not in any way diminish the nature of the HPC (High Probability of Completion) marking as inherently "queuing based". Similarly, in the circuit switched version, MLPP preempts established sessions. But it DOES NOT preempt SS7 processing, or network call gapping. That does not in any way diminish the nature of MLPP as "preemption based". Same here. Using more appropriate (than queuing or preemption) techniques to address priority in response to SIP server overload (e.g., exemption from load shedding) in no way diminishes the nature of the Namespace as "queuing based" or "preemption based". Janet
- [sip-overload] draft-ietf-soc-overload-design-05 ken carlberg
- Re: [sip-overload] draft-ietf-soc-overload-design… Volker Hilt
- Re: [sip-overload] draft-ietf-soc-overload-design… ken carlberg
- Re: [sip-overload] draft-ietf-soc-overload-design… Janet P Gunn
- Re: [sip-overload] draft-ietf-soc-overload-design… ken carlberg
- Re: [sip-overload] draft-ietf-soc-overload-design… Volker Hilt
- Re: [sip-overload] draft-ietf-soc-overload-design… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [sip-overload] draft-ietf-soc-overload-design… Janet P Gunn
- Re: [sip-overload] draft-ietf-soc-overload-design… ken carlberg
- Re: [sip-overload] draft-ietf-soc-overload-design… ken carlberg
- Re: [sip-overload] draft-ietf-soc-overload-design… ken carlberg
- Re: [sip-overload] draft-ietf-soc-overload-design… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [sip-overload] draft-ietf-soc-overload-design… ken carlberg
- Re: [sip-overload] draft-ietf-soc-overload-design… Janet P Gunn
- Re: [sip-overload] draft-ietf-soc-overload-design… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [sip-overload] draft-ietf-soc-overload-design… ken carlberg
- Re: [sip-overload] draft-ietf-soc-overload-design… Vijay K. Gurbani
- Re: [sip-overload] draft-ietf-soc-overload-design… Janet P Gunn
- Re: [sip-overload] draft-ietf-soc-overload-design… James M. Polk
- Re: [sip-overload] draft-ietf-soc-overload-design… Janet P Gunn
- Re: [sip-overload] draft-ietf-soc-overload-design… ken carlberg
- Re: [sip-overload] draft-ietf-soc-overload-design… James M. Polk
- Re: [sip-overload] draft-ietf-soc-overload-design… Volker Hilt
- Re: [sip-overload] draft-ietf-soc-overload-design… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)