Re: [sip-overload] draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-01 submitted
<bruno.chatras@orange-ftgroup.com> Tue, 08 February 2011 16:37 UTC
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> -----Message d'origine----- > De : Vijay K. Gurbani [mailto:vkg@bell-labs.com] > Envoyé : mardi 8 février 2011 14:56 > À : CHATRAS Bruno RD-CORE-ISS > Cc : sip-overload@ietf.org > Objet : Re: [sip-overload] draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-01 submitted > > On 02/08/2011 07:55 AM, bruno.chatras@orange-ftgroup.com wrote: > > [BC] I was trying to find a solution for the case where the proxy has > > been upgraded to support filtering of messages but not AS-A. I > > believe this will frequently happen in real networks (e.g. AS-A is an > > old system hosting basic telephony applications for user A while AS-B > > is a new system hosting a new overload control sensitive application, > > the core network proxies are upgraded). > > Bruno: I see. The thing that bothers me about this approach --- and I > readily subscribe to your assertion that this may happen in real > networks --- is that (a) we are essentially performing overload control > for AS-B two hops away, and (b) we are attempting to codify B2BUA > behaviour in the context of overload. > > Even then, the proxy must have a filter so only those messages that > AS-A will send to AS-B will be quenched. What is the nature of this > filter? Is it prescribed anywhere? Is loading this filter an > administrative task or will AS-A automatically send it to the proxy? > And if so, how? These are all questions that arise in the context of > your scenario. To what extent do we need to flesh these out if we go > this route? [BC] That's a bit tricky indeed. I think I understand you point as well. May be we should just add a warning that filtering must be performed by the adjacent nodes or is this stated somewhere already? > > > [BC] I agree under certain assumptions REQ-23 can be met. That's why > > I think that "partial" is more suitable than "Yes". "Yes under > > certain assumptions" would be fine as well. > > I agree; that is probably the best we can do. Unless someone else has > any objections, I will update REQ-23 to read "Partial". > > Thank you, > > - vijay > -- > Vijay K. Gurbani, Bell Laboratories, Alcatel-Lucent > 1960 Lucent Lane, Rm. 9C-533, Naperville, Illinois 60566 (USA) > Email: vkg@{bell-labs.com,acm.org} / vijay.gurbani@alcatel-lucent.com > Web: http://ect.bell-labs.com/who/vkg/
- [sip-overload] draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-01… Vijay K. Gurbani
- Re: [sip-overload] draft-ietf-soc-overload-contro… Antoine Roly
- Re: [sip-overload] draft-ietf-soc-overload-contro… Vijay K. Gurbani
- Re: [sip-overload] draft-ietf-soc-overload-contro… bruno.chatras
- Re: [sip-overload] draft-ietf-soc-overload-contro… Vijay K. Gurbani
- Re: [sip-overload] draft-ietf-soc-overload-contro… bruno.chatras
- Re: [sip-overload] draft-ietf-soc-overload-contro… Vijay K. Gurbani
- Re: [sip-overload] draft-ietf-soc-overload-contro… bruno.chatras
- Re: [sip-overload] draft-ietf-soc-overload-contro… Volker Hilt
- Re: [sip-overload] draft-ietf-soc-overload-contro… Volker Hilt
- Re: [sip-overload] draft-ietf-soc-overload-contro… Vijay K. Gurbani
- [sip-overload] Comments on draft-ietf-soc-overloa… Janet P Gunn
- Re: [sip-overload] Comments on draft-ietf-soc-ove… Volker Hilt