Re: [Sip] Draft SIP agenda for IETF 71

"Richard Shockey" <richard@shockey.us> Wed, 27 February 2008 19:28 UTC

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From: Richard Shockey <richard@shockey.us>
To: 'Dean Willis' <dean.willis@softarmor.com>, Hannes.Tschofenig@gmx.net
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Dean I agree with your underlying notion that at this point in time any
discussion of the underlying problems in E164 and identity could be
potentially counter productive.

The RAI schedule in Philadelphia is already overbooked as it is ..It may
take a separate hour or more BOF in Dublin to just scope out the problem.

Its better to try and peal these issues off into some separate task group or
something in order to let the rest of the SIP WG to proceed with its usual
overcrowded work load.

>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: sip-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:sip-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
>  Dean Willis
>  Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 12:43 AM
>  To: Hannes.Tschofenig@gmx.net
>  Cc: IETF SIP List
>  Subject: Re: [Sip] Draft SIP agenda for IETF 71
>  
>  
>  On Feb 26, 2008, at 3:13 PM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:
>  
>  > How are you going to cover all the identity related documents? I see
>  > only a few documents on the agenda
>  
>  Badly, most probably. I've suggested a breakout on e.164 identity to
>  AD Cullen, and he is pushing back on the idea, as it has the potential
>  to be full of sound and fury but signify nothing. It's not chartered,
>  and it might not be productive to just get into a bunch of shouting
>  matches.
>  
>  Perhaps you folks have some suggestions on how these things could be
>  covered effectively in a meeting?
>  
>  --
>  Dean
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