Re: [Sip] RE: Identity after reinvite
Jonathan Rosenberg <jdrosen@cisco.com> Wed, 17 November 2004 16:03 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Sip] RE: Identity after reinvite
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Paul Kyzivat wrote: > By "this" I assume you mean the to-from-change option? > > > only if you assume that the problem lies in the UA; I would > >> be worred about other nasties along the way. > > > For changing on subsequent requests within the dialog, what nasties are > you thinking of? I think only a call stateful proxy would notice, and it > seems there aren't many of those. Of course there are B2BUAs, but they > at least *ought* to be UAs and behave as such. Ought, being the operative word here. I fear that a b2bua would pass the Supported headers unmodified and then things would be bad. >> In any case, I don't see a need for a Supported header field. The >> feature is supposed to work with any rfc3261 client out there. > > > Other than just hoping for the best, why would we expect existing 3261 > clients to work with this change? It is explicitly called out in 12.2.1.1: > The URI in the To field of the request MUST be set to the remote URI > from the dialog state. The tag in the To header field of the request > MUST be set to the remote tag of the dialog ID. The From URI of the > request MUST be set to the local URI from the dialog state. The tag > in the From header field of the request MUST be set to the local tag > of the dialog ID. If the value of the remote or local tags is null, > the tag parameter MUST be omitted from the To or From header fields, > respectively. > > Usage of the URI from the To and From fields in the original > request within subsequent requests is done for backwards > compatibility with RFC 2543, which used the URI for dialog > identification. In this specification, only the tags are used for > dialog identification. It is expected that mandatory reflection > of the original To and From URI in mid-dialog requests will be > deprecated in a subsequent revision of this specification. Only the tags are ever used in any normative processing of dialogs in RFC 3261. The requirement to set the From field *URI* in the reverse direction to the value of the To URI in the original INVITE is *only* for backwards compatibility, and rfc3261 stated that this is likely to change one day. The day appears to be at hand. -Jonathan R. -- Jonathan D. Rosenberg, Ph.D. 600 Lanidex Plaza Director, Service Provider VoIP Architecture Parsippany, NJ 07054-2711 Cisco Systems jdrosen@cisco.com FAX: (973) 952-5050 http://www.jdrosen.net PHONE: (973) 952-5000 http://www.cisco.com _______________________________________________ Sip mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip
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