Re: [Sip] PING/PONG
Jonathan Rosenberg <jdrosen@cisco.com> Thu, 18 November 2004 04:53 UTC
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There isn't a UAS involved here; these requests go from the client (UAC) to its proxy. How the proxy indicates to the UAC that it is capable of processing these keepalives is a good question. My first thought is that this would be something in DNS; a new service in the NAPTR record for indicating the sip+stun combination. -Jonathan R. Steve Langstaff wrote: > Should point 2 read "The user agent server indicates if it can respond to client refresh requests"? > > -- > Steve Langstaff. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sip-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:sip-bounces@ietf.org]On Behalf Of > Jonathan Rosenberg > Sent: 17 November 2004 16:40 > To: Christian Stredicke > Cc: sip@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Sip] PING/PONG > > > > > Christian Stredicke wrote: > > >>So my understanding is: >> >>1. We should use *only* STUN for refreshing bindings (either UDP or TCP, >>what about TLS) > > > Yes, TLS too. TLS runs ontop of TCP after all. > > >>2. The user agent indicates if it can do it (no negotiation on >>capabilities) >> >>3. Refreshing must be done from the client >> >>Can we agree on that? > > > Yes. > > Server originating refreshing is in the wrong direction. It is the > client utilizing the service; if it wishes to make use of that service, > it has to be responsible for refreshing the connection. > > -Jonathan R. > -- Jonathan D. Rosenberg, Ph.D. 600 Lanidex Plaza Director, Service Provider VoIP Architecture Parsippany, NJ 07054-2711 Cisco Systems jdrosen@cisco.com FAX: (973) 952-5050 http://www.jdrosen.net PHONE: (973) 952-5000 http://www.cisco.com _______________________________________________ Sip mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip
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