Re: [Sip] PING/PONG

Jonathan Rosenberg <jdrosen@cisco.com> Thu, 18 November 2004 04:53 UTC

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There isn't a UAS involved here; these requests go from the client (UAC) 
to its proxy.

How the proxy indicates to the UAC that it is capable of processing 
these keepalives is a good question. My first thought is that this would 
be something in DNS; a new service in the NAPTR record for indicating 
the sip+stun combination.

-Jonathan R.

Steve Langstaff wrote:

> Should point 2 read "The user agent server indicates if it can respond to client refresh requests"?
> 
> --
> Steve Langstaff.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sip-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:sip-bounces@ietf.org]On Behalf Of
> Jonathan Rosenberg
> Sent: 17 November 2004 16:40
> To: Christian Stredicke
> Cc: sip@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Sip] PING/PONG
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Christian Stredicke wrote:
> 
> 
>>So my understanding is:
>>
>>1. We should use *only* STUN for refreshing bindings (either UDP or TCP,
>>what about TLS)
> 
> 
> Yes, TLS too. TLS runs ontop of TCP after all.
> 
> 
>>2. The user agent indicates if it can do it (no negotiation on
>>capabilities)
>>
>>3. Refreshing must be done from the client
>>
>>Can we agree on that?
> 
> 
> Yes.
> 
> Server originating refreshing is in the wrong direction. It is the 
> client utilizing the service; if it wishes to make use of that service, 
> it has to be responsible for refreshing the connection.
> 
> -Jonathan R.
> 

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