Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media path
Hadriel Kaplan <HKaplan@acmepacket.com> Mon, 25 February 2008 14:56 UTC
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From: Hadriel Kaplan <HKaplan@acmepacket.com>
To: Jonathan Rosenberg <jdrosen@cisco.com>, IETF SIP List <sip@ietf.org>
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 09:55:53 -0500
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Sweet draft. I would actually define the session-based IM usage for this first. It would fix a lot of the NAT traversal issues we can't currently get around with MSRP. (the basic lesson being: don't put IP Addresses/ports in application layer messages when you don't need to) -hadriel > -----Original Message----- > From: sip-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:sip-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Jonathan Rosenberg > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 7:55 PM > To: IETF SIP List > Subject: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media path > > I just submitted a new I-D, which proposes a protocol called TOTE: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-rosenberg-sip-tote-00.txt > > Basically, TOTE provides the ability to exchange MIME objects of any > type and "purpose" over a tcp/tls connection established e2e through SDP > O/A procedures and ICE-tcp. This ties into the INFO disussion; it > provides the media-plane equivalent of the INFO-events framework. > > This draft should arguably go in mmusic but since the INFO debate is > happening here I submitted it as a -sip. > > Thanks, > Jonathan R. > -- > Jonathan D. Rosenberg, Ph.D. 499 Thornall St. > Cisco Fellow Edison, NJ 08837 > Cisco, Voice Technology Group > jdrosen@cisco.com > http://www.jdrosen.net PHONE: (408) 902-3084 > http://www.cisco.com > _______________________________________________ > Sip mailing list http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip > This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol > Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip > Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip _______________________________________________ Sip mailing list http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip
- [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media path Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Dean Willis
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Christer Holmberg
- [Sip] TOTE - "INFO" on the media path: Comment on… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sip] TOTE - "INFO" on the media path: Commen… Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Ted Hardie
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Dean Willis
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Ted Hardie
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Dean Willis
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Dale.Worley
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Chris Boulton
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Chris Boulton
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Ted Hardie
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Ted Hardie
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Even, Roni