Re: [Sip] MESSAGE for rendering

Dale.Worley@comcast.net Fri, 14 December 2007 23:27 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Sip] MESSAGE for rendering
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   From: Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@cisco.com>

   I am entirely with you if the *intent* of sending the vcard is to render 
   it to the user in some human readable way. Its hardly any different from 
   sending HTML.

   Its much more questionable if the intent is that the vcard be filed in 
   the recipients address book without being rendered.

IMHO, filing information is as good as actually rendering it.  The
real question is layering -- "render" means "deliver to the layer
above the SIP UA".  Anything that partakes of media is "rendered" and
is acceptable for MESSAGE, anything that partakes of signaling is not
"rendered" and is acceptable for INFO.

One criterion is "Would it make sense to let the user arbitrarily
re-route where this information goes?"  With a vcard, it makes sense.
With the information INFO was intended to carry, it does not:

   RFC 2976 1.1 Example Uses

      The following are a few of the potential uses of the INFO message:

      - Carrying mid-call PSTN signaling messages between PSTN
        gateways.

      - Carrying DTMF digits generated during a SIP session.

      - Carrying wireless signal strength information in support of
        wireless mobility applications.

      - Carrying account balance information.
	[in a pay-as-you-go network -- DRW]

Dale


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