Re: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME
Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@cisco.com> Tue, 29 May 2007 12:15 UTC
Return-path: <sip-bounces@ietf.org>
Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ht0bR-0001Zl-0c; Tue, 29 May 2007 08:15:05 -0400
Received: from sip by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Ht0bO-0001ZX-QB for sip-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 29 May 2007 08:15:02 -0400
Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ht0bO-0001ZP-G7 for sip@ietf.org; Tue, 29 May 2007 08:15:02 -0400
Received: from rtp-iport-2.cisco.com ([64.102.122.149]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ht0bO-0000QY-7F for sip@ietf.org; Tue, 29 May 2007 08:15:02 -0400
Received: from rtp-dkim-2.cisco.com ([64.102.121.159]) by rtp-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 29 May 2007 08:15:02 -0400
X-IronPort-AV: i="4.14,588,1170651600"; d="scan'208"; a="122227638:sNHT46505198"
Received: from rtp-core-1.cisco.com (rtp-core-1.cisco.com [64.102.124.12]) by rtp-dkim-2.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l4TCF1Jo013357; Tue, 29 May 2007 08:15:01 -0400
Received: from xbh-rtp-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-rtp-211.cisco.com [64.102.31.102]) by rtp-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id l4TCEXBw004685; Tue, 29 May 2007 12:15:01 GMT
Received: from xfe-rtp-202.amer.cisco.com ([64.102.31.21]) by xbh-rtp-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 29 May 2007 08:14:55 -0400
Received: from [10.86.240.79] ([10.86.240.79]) by xfe-rtp-202.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 29 May 2007 08:14:55 -0400
Message-ID: <465C193E.7090805@cisco.com>
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 08:14:54 -0400
From: Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@cisco.com>
User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221)
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: Gonzalo Camarillo <Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com>
Subject: Re: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME
References: <7374777208BDC7449D5620EF9423256703F85957@esealmw113.eemea.ericsson.se> <0ee901c7931e$dd43f9b0$c4a36b80@amer.cisco.com> <1ECE0EB50388174790F9694F77522CCF106564B4@zrc2hxm0.corp.nortel.com> <4643B58A.3060407@cisco.com> <464ABDD6.9000503@ericsson.com> <464AF68A.4010105@cisco.com> <1ECE0EB50388174790F9694F77522CCF10788B8C@zrc2hxm0.corp.nortel.com> <4653FA1F.7050008@ericsson.com> <46545100.5040707@cisco.com> <4659D9FA.70501@ericsson.com> <465A6313.4030304@cisco.com> <465BE553.4010500@ericsson.com>
In-Reply-To: <465BE553.4010500@ericsson.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 May 2007 12:14:55.0458 (UTC) FILETIME=[F7C3EC20:01C7A1EA]
DKIM-Signature: v=0.5; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=2247; t=1180440902; x=1181304902; c=relaxed/simple; s=rtpdkim2001; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=pkyzivat@cisco.com; z=From:=20Paul=20Kyzivat=20<pkyzivat@cisco.com> |Subject:=20Re=3A=20[Sip]=20Support=20for=20Multipart/MIME |Sender:=20 |To:=20Gonzalo=20Camarillo=20<Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com>; bh=qIjpkRZT5zhTxzYT31NfTaklF+Gcok4chMKTmFGUbtQ=; b=qAJckjalk1dNZuFMskJi/XLuUjOAnN/gVl5SoAoQC1+evM/rKVIHbjRP/li1DjUxD9i6ormv xU+BwGqQmQ8nO/Oay9MBEuGpy+uc4sreIOSzoRLenC5QZ05MbvbgiO39;
Authentication-Results: rtp-dkim-2; header.From=pkyzivat@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/rtpdkim2001 verified; );
X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/)
X-Scan-Signature: 538aad3a3c4f01d8b6a6477ca4248793
Cc: sip@ietf.org, Francois Audet <audet@nortel.com>, Dan Wing <dwing@cisco.com>, "Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)" <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
X-BeenThere: sip@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5
Precedence: list
List-Id: Session Initiation Protocol <sip.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip>, <mailto:sip-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Post: <mailto:sip@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:sip-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip>, <mailto:sip-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: sip-bounces@ietf.org
Gonzalo, This all sounds good. I haven't read the new version yet, but based on your description below I have no problems with this, except possibly one area in which I am uncertain and which I would like to discuss: Gonzalo Camarillo wrote: > "4.2. Body Processing > > UAs process message bodies and body parts in the following way. On > receiving a SIP message, if a body part is not referenced in any way > (e.g., there are no header fields or other body parts with a > Content-ID URL pointing to it), the UA processes the body part as > indicated by its disposition type and the context in which the body > part was received. > > OPEN ISSUE 4: this means that a UA would need to parse all body parts > to find references between them before being able to fully process > them. If we are OK with this, we need to include text here > explaining it." I think there is at least ambiguity about what it means to "process" a body part. If one body part has a reference to another body part, then some amount of processing is required to detect such a reference. There seems to be an implication that two-pass (or more) processing, such as is typically done in compilers, is expected. But given the variety of body types I think it will be difficult to define what may be processed in a first pass and what must be postponed to a second pass. Also, often people will want to use off-the-shelf packages to support certain body types, and those may not be so cooperative with this requirement. Also, whether we like it or not, there will be systems that are only interested in a subset of what is there. (For instance proxies that are interested in SDP for purpose of enabling access.) These will want to parse the minimum necessary to find what they are interested in. It would be best if we can figure out a way for this to work. Maybe it is that a UA needs to parse everything that is supported, but other nodes it passes through can be more selective. >>> OPEN ISSUE 3: do we need to talk about encrypted body parts? >> >> ??? > > Christer brought this one up. What did you have in mind? Nothing. I just don't know. Thanks, Paul _______________________________________________ Sip mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip
- Re: [Sip] SIPit 20 survey summary Frank W. Miller
- [Sip] SIPit 20 survey summary Robert Sparks
- [Sip] Which sip.instance to use (GRUU and Outboun… Jerry Yin
- Re: [Sip] SIPit 20 survey summary Jeroen van Bemmel
- Re: [Sip] SIPit 20 survey summary Juha Heinanen
- RE: [Sip] SIPit 20 survey summary Brian Rosen
- Re: [Sip-implementors] [Sip] SIPit 20 survey summ… Mark R. Lindsey
- Re: [Sip-implementors] [Sip] SIPit 20 survey summ… Juha Heinanen
- Re: [Sip] SIPit 20 survey summary Cullen Jennings
- Re: [Sip] SIPit 20 survey summary Frank W. Miller
- Re: [Sip] SIPit 20 survey summary Cullen Jennings
- Re: [Sip-implementors] [Sip] SIPit 20 survey summ… Mark R. Lindsey
- Re: [Sip-implementors] [Sip] SIPit 20 survey summ… Juha Heinanen
- Re: [Sip] SIPit 20 survey summary Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Sip] SIPit 20 survey summary Jeroen van Bemmel
- Re: [Sip] SIPit 20 survey summary Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [Sip] SIPit 20 survey summary Juha Heinanen
- Re: [Sip] SIPit 20 survey summary Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Sip] SIPit 20 survey summary Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Sip-implementors] [Sip] SIPit 20 survey summ… Scott Lawrence
- Re: [Sip] SIPit 20 survey summary Frank W. Miller
- Re: [Sip] SIPit 20 survey summary Juha Heinanen
- Re: [Sip] SIPit 20 survey summary Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [Sip] SIPit 20 survey summary Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [Sip] SIPit 20 survey summary Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Sip] SIPit 20 survey summary Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Sip] SIPit 20 survey summary Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Sip-implementors] [Sip] SIPit 20 survey summ… Jeroen van Bemmel
- Re: [Sip-implementors] [Sip] SIPit 20 survey summ… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Sip-implementors] [Sip] SIPit 20 survey summ… Jeroen van Bemmel
- [Sip] geoloc implementation (Was: SIPit 20 survey… Dale.Worley
- Re: [Sip] geoloc implementation (Was: SIPit 20 su… Paul Kyzivat
- [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Cullen Jennings
- Re: [Sip] geoloc implementation (Was: SIPit 20 su… Juha Heinanen
- RE: [Sip] geoloc implementation (Was: SIPit 20 su… Brian Rosen
- Re: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Dale.Worley
- Re: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Frank W. Miller
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Francois Audet
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME James M. Polk
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Dan Wing
- Re: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME James M. Polk
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Dan Wing
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Ted Hardie
- Re: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Dean Willis
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Dan Wing
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Ted Hardie
- Re: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Dan Wing
- Re: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Dan Wing
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- Re: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Dean Willis
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Dan Wing
- Re: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Ted Hardie
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Dan Wing
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Dan Wing
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Dan Wing
- Re: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Francois Audet
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- Re: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Dan Wing
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Dan Wing
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- Re: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Dan Wing
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Dan Wing
- Re: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Francois Audet
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Francois Audet
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Dan Wing
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Francois Audet
- Re: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Cullen Jennings
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- Re: [Sip-implementors] [Sip] SIPit 20 survey summ… Klaus Darilion
- Re: [Sip-implementors] [Sip] SIPit 20 survey summ… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Sip-implementors] [Sip] SIPit 20 survey summ… Dale.Worley
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Francois Audet
- Re: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Francois Audet
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Francois Audet
- Re: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Francois Audet
- Re: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Dan Wing
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Francois Audet
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Francois Audet
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Dan Wing
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Dan Wing
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Francois Audet
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Elwell, John
- Re: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME - order of b… Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME - order of b… Francois Audet
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME - order of b… Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- Re: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME - S/MIME Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME - support of… Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- Re: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME - support of… Gonzalo Camarillo
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME - support of… Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- Re: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME - support of… Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Dan Wing
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Dan Wing
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME - when is it… Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME - support of… Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- Re: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Gonzalo Camarillo
- RE: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Dan Wing
- Re: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Sip] Support for Multipart/MIME Cullen Jennings