Re: [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one digit format?

Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@cisco.com> Wed, 06 January 2010 15:07 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one digit format?
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Vijay Tiwari wrote:
> Hello all
>  
> yes KPML is not implement into implement this scenario. its only for 
> DTMF digits.

It was not *intended* for this, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be 
used for this purpose. However there is no standard defined for doing so.

And its extremely unlikely that one would be defined, because it 
requires a different division of responsibility between components than 
the sip specs assume. Specifically, to do this, you have to turn the sip 
phone into a dumb device, akin to MGCP, with a master that does most of 
the work. You need to do this, because you must establish a session with 
*something* that will receive the digits, and then eventually decide 
when a full number has been entered, and then initiate a call.

	Thanks,
	Paul

> Thanks
> Vijay 
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:38 PM, hadi motamedi <motamedi24@gmail.com 
> <mailto:motamedi24@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>     On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 6:59 AM, Vijay Tiwari
>     <vijay11tiwari@gmail.com <mailto:vijay11tiwari@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>         Hello All
>          
>         this KPML subscription package used for DTMF digits not for
>         invite number in request URI.
> 
>         On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Prasath Elangovan -X (prelango
>         - HCL at Cisco) <prelango@cisco.com <mailto:prelango@cisco.com>>
>         wrote:
> 
>             Hey Hadi,
>              
>             You could do this via KPML Subscription package. Send invite
>             with just 6 and remaining digits throught NOTIFY.
>              
>             Thanks, Prasath
> 
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>             *From:* sip-bounces@ietf.org <mailto:sip-bounces@ietf.org>
>             [mailto:sip-bounces@ietf.org <mailto:sip-bounces@ietf.org>]
>             *On Behalf Of *hadi motamedi
>             *Sent:* Wednesday, January 06, 2010 11:42 AM
>             *To:* sip@ietf.org <mailto:sip@ietf.org>
>             *Subject:* [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in
>             one-by-one digit format?
> 
>              
>             Dear All
>             Can you please do me favor and let me know if it is technically
>             feasible to send the sip dialed digits in one-by-one-digit
>             format ? I
>             mean if the subs dials say 6659983 we try to send it as
>             6,6,5,9,9,8,3
>             but not as 6659983 in just one package with sip invite .
>             Thank you in advance
> 
> 
> 
> 
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>         -- 
>         They can because they think they can.
> 
>      
>      
>     Sorry. You mean KPML cannot implement this scenario ?
> 
>      
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> They can because they think they can.
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