RE: [Sip] PING/PONG
"Christian Stredicke" <Christian.Stredicke@snom.de> Wed, 17 November 2004 18:07 UTC
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Subject: RE: [Sip] PING/PONG
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From: Christian Stredicke <Christian.Stredicke@snom.de>
To: Steve Langstaff <steve.langstaff@citel.com>, Jonathan Rosenberg <jdrosen@cisco.com>
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Well, thats a good question. I think everybody should prepare their server for responding to STUN requests on the SIP port. We do since two years.-) CS > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Langstaff [mailto:steve.langstaff@citel.com] > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 12:16 PM > To: Jonathan Rosenberg; Christian Stredicke > Cc: sip@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [Sip] PING/PONG > > Should point 2 read "The user agent server indicates if it > can respond to client refresh requests"? > > -- > Steve Langstaff. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sip-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:sip-bounces@ietf.org]On > Behalf Of Jonathan Rosenberg > Sent: 17 November 2004 16:40 > To: Christian Stredicke > Cc: sip@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Sip] PING/PONG > > > > > Christian Stredicke wrote: > > > So my understanding is: > > > > 1. We should use *only* STUN for refreshing bindings (either UDP or > > TCP, what about TLS) > > Yes, TLS too. TLS runs ontop of TCP after all. > > > > > 2. The user agent indicates if it can do it (no negotiation on > > capabilities) > > > > 3. Refreshing must be done from the client > > > > Can we agree on that? > > Yes. > > Server originating refreshing is in the wrong direction. It > is the client utilizing the service; if it wishes to make use > of that service, it has to be responsible for refreshing the > connection. > > -Jonathan R. > > -- > Jonathan D. Rosenberg, Ph.D. 600 Lanidex Plaza > Director, Service Provider VoIP Architecture Parsippany, NJ > 07054-2711 > Cisco Systems > jdrosen@cisco.com FAX: (973) 952-5050 > http://www.jdrosen.net PHONE: (973) 952-5000 > http://www.cisco.com > > _______________________________________________ > Sip mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip > This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol Use > sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip > Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip > > > _______________________________________________ Sip mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip
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