Re: [Sip] Manyfolks and re-INVITE

I'll add some text to section 11 (usage rules) making this
explicit.

Bill Marshall
wtm@research.att.com

-----original message-----
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:40:44 +0300
From: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@lmf.ericsson.se>
To: William Marshall <wtm@research.att.com>
Cc: sip@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Sip] Manyfolks and re-INVITE

Hi,

> The sequence to change codecs mid-session would be identical to that
> to establish a new session.  The new media streams could require
> authorization, need resource reservations, etc, etc, etc.  The new
> media stream could even require "ringing" if the end user needs to
> do anything prior to the UAS accepting the codec change.  If any
> of this fails, the mid-session codec change fails.
> 
> Nothing in the protocol prevents 1xx provisional responses to a mid-session
> INVITE.  Nor does anything prevent a mid-session PRACK.

I know. I do think, however, that the re-INVITE scenario should be
described in the draft. And, even if 1xx messages ARE allowed, it am not
sure it is a very good idea to send 180 Ringing in the middle of the
call. I guess 183 is ok, and maybe we could even define a new 18x code
for this purpose, if needed. 

My point is that until now I guess most people have assumed that 18x and
PRACK are used only during the call setup, no matter what the standard
may allow.

Regards,

Christer (lmfchh)

> 
> Bill Marshall
> wtm@research.att.com
> 
> -----original message-----
> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:00:54 +0300
> From: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@lmf.ericsson.se>
> Subject: [Sip] Manyfolks and re-INVITE
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Another question related to the manyfolks draft.
> 
> If we want to send a mid-call re-INVITE, for example to change codecs, I
> assume that we will have to do the same procedure as in the beginning of
> the call, with the 18x-, PRACK-, and COMET messages.
> 
> Now, since there is nothing wrong by sending 1xx provisional responses
> for a mid-call request, isn't the 18x responses defined for the call
> setup procedure? Also, I've never seen any example of the use of
> mid-call PRACKs, even if I guess it's not illegal from a protocol point
> of view either.
> 
> Comments on this?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Christer Holmberg
> Ericsson Finland

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