[Sip] RE: Delivering request-URI and parameters to UAS via proxy - new version of the draft-holmberg-sip-target-uri-delivery draft
"Christer Holmberg" <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> Wed, 16 January 2008 11:05 UTC
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From: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
To: "Elwell, John" <john.elwell@siemens.com>, sip@ietf.org
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Subject: [Sip] RE: Delivering request-URI and parameters to UAS via proxy - new version of the draft-holmberg-sip-target-uri-delivery draft
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Hi John, >Thanks for this revision, which makes things somewhat >clearer. I do have a couple of comments: > >1. I am not sure I agree with the assertions in section 4 >concerning issues with the mechanisms in loose-route. Taking >example 1, the Route header field should contain enough >entries to get you to the registered contact, not just to an >intermediate proxy. Therefore this situation should not arise >with a correctly implemented home proxy. It is not clear to >me how example 2 could arise either, for similar reasons. The >MGC case can be resolved by taking into account the option >tag in the REGISTER request, or if it is permanently >registered, through provisioning. The examples are not meant to show bugs in the loose-route mechanism. They are meant to help people understand the limitations with the loose-route mechanism. >2. Comparing the mechanism proposed with the loose-route >mechanism, my understanding is: >a)When retargeting occurs, the loose-route mechanism places >the new target in the Request URI. Your proposal places the >new target in both the Request-URI and the Target header field. >b) When rerouting, the loose-route mechanism places the new >route (i.e., the registered contact) in the Route header >field. Your proposal places the new route in the Request-URI >(the latter as per RFC 3261). >So the two mechanisms solve exactly the same problems using a >slightly different mechanism. Correct? Yes. The two solutions intend to solve the same problem. >3. How P-Called-Party-ID fits into this is not really >relevant from an IETF perspective - it seems there are some >3GPP-specific situations where the contents of >P-Called-Party-ID will not equal the contents of Target. Correct? Correct. >4. If my suggestion in point 1 above that the loose-route >mechanism does not suffer from the problems suggested, then >each mechanism will work and each addresses the same problem. >So it is just down to a beauty contest between the two. Correct? See question 1. We believe that our solution does not have the same limitations as the loose-route solution. But, again, both solutions intend to solve the same problem. Regards, Christer > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Christer Holmberg [mailto:christer.holmberg@ericsson.com] > > Sent: 16 January 2008 08:41 > > To: sip@ietf.org > > Cc: DRAGE, Keith (Keith); Paul Kyzivat; Elwell, John; Jeroen van > > Bemmel; Francois Audet > > Subject: Delivering request-URI and parameters to UAS via > proxy - new > > version of the draft-holmberg-sip-target-uri-delivery draft > > > > > > Hi, > > > > We've uploaded a new version (-01) of the Target draft. > > > > We've tried to make things more clear. I've also removed all text > > about P-Called-Party-ID, except from one chapter where we try to > > explain the semantical difference between Target and P-CPI. > > > > You can also find the draft from: > > http://users.piuha.net/cholmber/drafts/draft-holmberg-sip-targ > > et-uri-del > > ivery-01.txt > > > > Regards, > > > > Christer > > > _______________________________________________ Sip mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip
- [Sip] Delivering request-URI and parameters to UA… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- VS: [Sip] Delivering request-URI and parameters t… Christer Holmberg
- Re: VS: [Sip] Delivering request-URI and paramete… Jonathan Rosenberg
- VS: VS: [Sip] Delivering request-URI and paramete… Christer Holmberg
- [Sip] RE: Delivering request-URI and parameters t… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- RE: [Sip] RE: Delivering request-URI and paramete… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [Sip] RE: Delivering request-URI and paramete… Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sip] RE: Delivering request-URI and paramete… Elwell, John
- RE: [Sip] RE: Delivering request-URI and paramete… Francois Audet
- RE: [Sip] RE: Delivering request-URI and paramete… Christer Holmberg
- RE: [Sip] RE: Delivering request-URI and paramete… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [Sip] RE: Delivering request-URI and paramete… Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sip] RE: Delivering request-URI and paramete… Francois Audet
- RE: [Sip] RE: Delivering request-URI and paramete… Christer Holmberg
- RE: [Sip] RE: Delivering request-URI and paramete… Christer Holmberg
- RE: [Sip] RE: Delivering request-URI and paramete… Christer Holmberg
- [Sip] Delivering request-URI and parameters to UA… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- RE: [Sip] RE: Delivering request-URI and paramete… Francois Audet
- RE: [Sip] RE: Delivering request-URI and paramete… Christer Holmberg
- RE: [Sip] RE: Delivering request-URI and paramete… Elwell, John
- RE: [Sip] RE: Delivering request-URI and paramete… Christer Holmberg
- RE: [Sip] RE: Delivering request-URI and paramete… Elwell, John
- RE: [Sip] RE: Delivering request-URI and paramete… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [Sip] RE: Delivering request-URI and paramete… Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sip] RE: Delivering request-URI and paramete… Francois Audet
- Re: [Sip] RE: Delivering request-URI and paramete… Jeroen van Bemmel
- RE: [Sip] RE: Delivering request-URI and paramete… Christer Holmberg
- RE: [Sip] RE: Delivering request-URI and paramete… Christer Holmberg
- [Sip] Delivering request-URI and parameters to UA… Christer Holmberg
- [Sip] RE: Delivering request-URI and parameters t… Elwell, John
- [Sip] RE: Delivering request-URI and parameters t… Christer Holmberg
- RE: [Sip] RE: Delivering request-URI and paramete… Elwell, John
- RE: [Sip] Delivering request-URI and parameters t… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- RE: [Sip] Delivering request-URI and parameters t… Christer Holmberg
- RE: [Sip] RE: Delivering request-URI and paramete… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [Sip] RE: Delivering request-URI and paramete… Paul Kyzivat
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- RE: [Sip] RE: Delivering request-URI and paramete… Elwell, John
- RE: [Sip] RE: Delivering request-URI and paramete… Christer Holmberg
- RE: [Sip] Delivering request-URI and parameters t… youssef.chadli
- RE: [Sip] RE: Delivering request-URI and paramete… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [Sip] RE: Delivering request-URI and paramete… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Sip] Delivering request-URI and parameters t… Enrico Marocco
- Re: [Sip] SIP Routers James M. Polk
- RE: [Sip] RE: Delivering request-URI and paramete… Elwell, John
- RE: [Sip] RE: Delivering request-URI and paramete… Christer Holmberg
- RE: [Sip] RE: Delivering request-URI and paramete… Elwell, John
- [Sip] Vocabulary and problem statement for Reques… Dean Willis
- Re: [Sip] Vocabulary and problem statement for Re… Dean Willis
- RE: [Sip] Vocabulary and problem statement for Re… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- RE: [Sip] Vocabulary and problem statement for Re… Hadriel Kaplan
- RE: [Sip] Vocabulary and problem statement for Re… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [Sip] Vocabulary and problem statement for Re… Dean Willis
- RE: [Sip] Vocabulary and problem statement for Re… Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh)
- RE: [Sip] Vocabulary and problem statement for Re… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [Sip] Vocabulary and problem statement for Re… Dean Willis
- Re: [Sip] Vocabulary and problem statement for Re… Jeroen van Bemmel
- RE: [Sip] Vocabulary and problem statement for Re… Elwell, John
- Re: [Sip] Vocabulary and problem statement for Re… Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sip] Vocabulary and problem statement for Re… Hadriel Kaplan
- RE: [Sip] Vocabulary and problem statement forReq… Elwell, John
- RE: [Sip] Vocabulary and problem statement forReq… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [Sip] Vocabulary and problem statement forReq… Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sip] Vocabulary and problem statement forReq… Elwell, John
- RE: [Sip] Vocabulary and problem statementforRequ… Elwell, John
- Re: [Sip] Vocabulary and problem statement forReq… Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sip] Vocabulary and problem statementforRequ… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [Sip] RE: Delivering request-URI and paramete… Jonathan Rosenberg
- RE: [Sip] Delivering request-URI and parameters t… youssef.chadli
- Re: [Sip] Delivering request-URI and parameters t… Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sip] Delivering request-URI and parameters t… youssef.chadli
- RE: [Sip] RE: Delivering request-URI and paramete… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [Sip] Delivering request-URI and parameters t… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Sip] Delivering request-URI and parameters t… Hans Erik van Elburg