Re: [Sip] Chance to defend position that SIP has had poor consumertraction Etc.
"Lee Dryburgh" <dryburghl@gmail.com> Mon, 17 December 2007 00:33 UTC
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Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 00:33:07 +0000
From: Lee Dryburgh <dryburghl@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Sip] Chance to defend position that SIP has had poor consumertraction Etc.
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Henry to make such affirmative statements is rather lofty of you. Having worked for most telecom vendors and many operators, in 30 countries, exclusively in the realms of signalling, it is rather staggering that you retort "confused" and leave it at that. That signalling work includes first NGN trials and 3G deployments. The "others" you refer to is "other" and I've just replied to that. As said I asked for a balanced view as far as possible and simply hitting reply, typing "confused"/"half-truth" is far from balanced. Regards Lee On 16/12/2007, Henry Sinnreich <hsinnrei@adobe.com> wrote: > > Lee, > > > > Sorry, but you have it all wrong and confused as email from others are > also observing. > > The half truths are even more confusing. > > This list is not the right place to argue your confusion. > > > > Henry > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Lee Dryburgh [mailto:dryburghl@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Sunday, December 16, 2007 8:35 AM > *To:* IETF SIP List > *Subject:* [Sip] Chance to defend position that SIP has had poor > consumertraction Etc. > > > > Marketing for the eComm March 2008 conference (see www.eCommMedia.com) is > away to drive ahead with the messages which I give them. One of these > messages is critical towards SIP. Before the marketing material is > finalised, I'd like to first welcome responses. I'd love to copy all the > messages but I may run the risk of getting accused of spamming the list so > below I've just copied the section that relates to SIP: > > "Voice Industry Stagnancy > Telcos still see themselves as masters of communications innovation and > the guardians to the creation of new services. Yet 3G, FMC, IPTV, NGN and > IMS services are failing in the market place. At the same time consumer > attention drifts increasingly towards Internet based applications such as > Facebook, MySpace, YouTube, FlickR, SecondLife, World of Warcraft Etc. which > are becoming increasingly voice enabled. > > Yet within the Internet realms VoIP is still heralded as the communication > revolution. But VoIP on it's own is nothing more than digital telephony and > it will never be profitable. It has gained little consumer traction and can > be announced as dead-on-arrival. SIP the VoIP signaling protocol even after > a decade of development has had little consumer reach and the entire notion > of a common signaling protocol is now under question. " > > Now it would seem stupid to ask people to call their baby ugly. BUT what I > do hope for, is that there is enough people with a balanced view who if they > feel strongly against this position and can provide clear rationale, then I > will have it modified/changed accordingly. Otherwise it will be accepted as > true. Seems fair? > > Thanks Lee >
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- [Sip] Chance to defend position that SIP has had … Lee Dryburgh
- Re: [Sip] Chance to defend position that SIP has … Ari El
- RE: [Sip] Chance to defend position that SIP has … Henry Sinnreich
- Re: [Sip] Chance to defend position that SIP has … Lee Dryburgh
- Re: [Sip] Chance to defend position that SIP has … Lee Dryburgh
- Re: [Sip] Chance to defend position that SIP has … Dean Willis
- Re: [Sip] Chance to defend position that SIP has … Lee Dryburgh