Re: [sipcore] RFC4028 : Very basic question in 8.1

OKUMURA Shinji <ietf.shinji@gmail.com> Fri, 10 July 2020 14:56 UTC

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From: OKUMURA Shinji <ietf.shinji@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [sipcore] RFC4028 : Very basic question in 8.1
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On 2020/07/10 2:11, Paul Kyzivat wrote:
>> What I am trying to avoid is ending up with a non-obvious set of changes to an existing specification which will act as a barrier to implementation. Letting proxies increase SE would be an example of such change.
> 
> Upon rereading 4028 I was surprised to discover that proxies MAY increase SE to the extent necessary to conform with an increased Min-SE! I hadn't remembered that part. But AFAIK that is the only case where it is allowed.

In fact, proxy is conditionally allowed to increase SE directly without renegotiation. And RFC does not specify the procedure to reject if too large.
This is why I interpret the RFC does not attach importance to increase of SE.

And you said,
> If the Min-SE and SE are higher than one of the proxies desires, then it is pretty much out of luck. In some sense this is futile for it to complain because the timer refreshes are only part of the traffic.

So, I want to know why must a proxy not increase SE-value?
I think this is a very basic and important premise of RFC, but there is no specific explanation.
I say again, this is not a suggestion, but a question.

Regards,
Shinji