Re: [sipcore] Input requested on how to proceed with the essential corrections to RFC 3261

gao.yang2@zte.com.cn Fri, 26 June 2009 02:12 UTC

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Subject: Re: [sipcore] Input requested on how to proceed with the essential corrections to RFC 3261
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Hi,

As currently, correction of texts for RFC3261 are in different states, 
such as some in RFC states, some in  WG draft states and others in 
Personal draft states.
So, combination of the all may be a unmanageable work. Further, making the 
texts in RFC states into a new WG draft/RFC may make people 
confusing(especially for citation of such RFCs).

So, I think making them separately might better.
And I think we can using a new text as the list of the currently 
correlative active draft/RFCs. Then, people wanting to have a main view of 
RFC's correction can refer to that list.

Thanks,

Gao

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"Vijay K. Gurbani" <vkg@alcatel-lucent.com> 
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2009-06-25 21:58

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Gonzalo Camarillo <Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com>
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Re: [sipcore] Input requested on how to proceed with the essential 
corrections to RFC 3261






Gonzalo Camarillo wrote:
[...]
> The concrete decision we have to make is whether it makes sense to merge 

> the following drafts in a batch, per the essential corrections process, 
> or whether we advance these drafts independently.
> 
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sip-ipv6-abnf-fix-03
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sparks-sip-invfix-03
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-camarillo-sipping-reinvite-00
> 
> We would appreciate the feedback of the WG on this issue so that we can 
> make progress updating RFC 3261.

Gonzalo: I don't have a hard opinion one way or the other.

That said, a quick analysis on the existing corpus of RFCs to
see which RFC has been updated by the most number of RFCs
reveals that rfc1035 has been updated by 20 RFCs (and rfc1035
is a standards track document), followed by rfc1034 (14 updates.)
The next highest distribution bin from there clusters
around 3-5 updates.

So, if the past in the form of rfc1035 is any guide, then
rfc3261 has a way to go, and we should be okay by having each
individual document update rfc3261 independently.

Or alternatively, you can advance the drafts that have
been previously identified as part of the essential corrections
process in a batch, but once that is done, revert back to the
normal mode of operations -- each file updates the base RFC in
its own manner.

- vijay
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