Re: [sipcore] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sipcore-rfc4028bis-01.txt

["A. Jean Mahoney" <[e-mail]>]

Hi Paul,

Given the draft name changes, it is hard to follow what happened if you 
are searching through mailarchive (When neither email subjects nor 
bodies contain full draft names, mailarchive can't pull them up.)

On 6/24/19 11:03 AM, Paul Kyzivat wrote:
> On 6/24/19 11:49 AM, Paul Kyzivat wrote:
>> Somehow I never noticed the publication of the -00 of this.
>> Looking back, I now see that it was published and adopted as a wg 
>> draft back in December. But I don't see any discussion of it at all.

The adoption discussion was originally for 
draft-holmberg-sipcore-sessiontimer-race: 
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/sipcore/f0OPMCcrWWil7w2CeHVP-ywwyaU

That draft became draft-ietf-sipcore-sessiontimer-race.

> 
> Sorry. After further looking I did find some discussion. But it was all 
> procedural. No mention of *why* that I could see.

Then at IETF 103, it was discussed that perhaps a bis of 4028 would be 
better: 
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/sipcore/ubJIdvR76g3_i9dcwsxFEQLdawk

And that was followed up with a call to replace 
draft-ietf-sipcore-sessiontimer-race with 4028bis: 
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/sipcore/6J41DcyYfdTG9ZvwAtms1lhFc74

> 
>> And looking at the diff between -01 and rfc4028 I don't see any 
>> changes that would explain why it is being issued. The only changes I 
>> see seem to be artifacts of reformatting it according to current 
>> conventions.

draft-ietf-sipcore-rfc4028bis-00 was just a formatting update while 
waiting for responses from RFC 4028 co-authors to see if they wanted to 
remain as co-authors of the bis draft (discussion occurred off-list).

Then the draft just expired.

Thanks!

Jean


>>
>> What is then intent in making this update?
> 
> This is still the question.
> 
>      Thanks,
>      Paul
> 
>>      Thanks,
>>      Paul
>>
>> On 6/24/19 3:46 AM, [e-mail] wrote:
>>>
>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts 
>>> directories.
>>> This draft is a work item of the Session Initiation Protocol Core WG 
>>> of the IETF.
>>>
>>>          Title           : Session Timers in the Session Initiation 
>>> Protocol (SIP)
>>>          Authors         : Christer Holmberg
>>>                            Steve Donovan
>>>                            Jonathan Rosenberg
>>>     Filename        : draft-ietf-sipcore-rfc4028bis-01.txt
>>>     Pages           : 26
>>>     Date            : 2019-06-24
>>>
>>> Abstract:
>>>     This document defines an extension to the Session Initiation 
>>> Protocol
>>>     (SIP).  This extension allows for a periodic refresh of SIP sessions
>>>     through a re-INVITE or UPDATE request.  The refresh allows both user
>>>     agents and proxies to determine whether the SIP session is still
>>>     active.  The extension defines two new header fields: Session-
>>>     Expires, which conveys the lifetime of the session, and Min-SE, 
>>> which
>>>     conveys the minimum allowed value for the session timer.
>>>
>>>
>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sipcore-rfc4028bis/
>>>
>>> There are also htmlized versions available at:
>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sipcore-rfc4028bis-01
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-sipcore-rfc4028bis-01
>>>
>>> A diff from the previous version is available at:
>>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-sipcore-rfc4028bis-01
>>>
>>>
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>>> submission
>>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>>>
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