Re: [sipcore] Questions on location conveyance and dereferencing

"Hannes Tschofenig" <Hannes.Tschofenig@gmx.net> Mon, 23 August 2010 08:38 UTC

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Subject: Re: [sipcore] Questions on location conveyance and dereferencing
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I would use the following HELD request: 
 <locationRequest xmlns="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:geopriv:held">
 <locationType exact="true">
 geodetic
 civic
 </locationType>
 </locationRequest>

Ciao
Hannes





----- Ursprüngliche Nachricht -----
Von: Elwell, John
Gesendet: 23.08.10 11:30 Uhr
An: Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo), ext Winterbottom, James, sipcore@ietf.org
Betreff: Re: [sipcore] Questions on location conveyance and dereferencing

> -----Original Message----- > From: Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo) > [mailto:hannes.tschofenig@nsn.com] > Sent: 16 August 2010 07:27 > To: Elwell, John; ext Winterbottom, James; sipcore@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [sipcore] Questions on location conveyance and > dereferencing > > Hi John, > > > > > In your enterprise LIS for emergency services you will most > > > likely want > > > to figure out who is going to consume that reference. Quite > > likely the > > > PSAP will consume the reference. If so, you better talk > to the PSAP > > > responsible for that specific area. > > [JRE] Quite so, except is it likely my VoIP service provider > > might also want to inspect the location, to confirm correct > > routing? Then depending on which SP I choose to route that > > particular call through, they might support different URI > > schemes? It seems to be a mess not having a MUST implement scheme. > > I understand the theoretical concern. > I have no objections against a mandatory t
 o implement HTTP-based > dereferencing mechanism. > > > > > XMPP does not provide equivalent functionality of SIP location > > > conveyance. > > > So, another non-issue. > > [JRE] That was not the point I was making. I was simply > > saying that even applications that support presence might > > support XMPP rather than SIMPLE, and therefore would not want > > to implement RFC 3856. Instead they might prefer to use HTTP. > I am not quite sure which scenario you have in mind. > If I have an end host that supports XMPP and then gets a location URI > then there is the question of who is going to dereference it. If it is > the end point then it would have to implement the protocol > indicated by > the URI scheme. Now, if this happens to be SIP then this end > point would > have to implement SIP. The end host could, however, request > location by > value instead instead of going through the dance of utilizing a LbyR. [JRE] So how does it request LbyV? John > If the end point does 
 not dereference the LbyR but instead some other > entity then there is the question of how this reference then actually > gets there. > > Ciao > Hannes > _______________________________________________ sipcore mailing list sipcore@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipcore