Re: [sipcore] Open issues in draft-ietf-sipcore-sip-websocket-09
"Parthasarathi R" <partha@parthasarathi.co.in> Thu, 27 June 2013 16:09 UTC
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Subject: Re: [sipcore] Open issues in draft-ietf-sipcore-sip-websocket-09
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Paul, Thanks for the clarification. Let us wait for the clarification on R-R issue. Thanks Partha > -----Original Message----- > From: sipcore-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:sipcore-bounces@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of Paul Kyzivat > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 8:44 PM > To: Parthasarathi R > Cc: sipcore@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [sipcore] Open issues in draft-ietf-sipcore-sip-websocket- > 09 > > Partha, > > You addressed your reply to me. But I just posed the question, not the > answer. I'm waiting for those who proposed the language to clarify it. > > The real issue is: how can a websocket server ever decide that it > *doesn't* need to R-R? > > Thanks, > Paul > > On 6/24/13 8:41 PM, Parthasarathi R wrote: > > Paul, > > > > I think that we are talking about two problems here > > > > 1) SIP routing issue because of SIP WebSocket Client has only > WebSocket as a transport (Browser scenario) > > a) Solution: Record-route header has to be added by SIP WebSocket > Server. > > > > 2) How will SIP WebSocket Server know that SIP WebSocket client > supports only SIP WebSocket as a transport? (Non-browser scenario) > > a) AFAIK, there is no other environment other than browser has > the limitation of not supporting UDP & TCP. In case any other > environment exists, Please let me know. > > b) The beauty of RFC 3261 is that there is no need to negotiate > the set of "SIP" transport protocol as it mandates for UDP, TCP. I > agree that it is an open item how to represent the list of transport > supported by a SIP UA in case of supporting WebSocket only transport > scenario. But I'm not sure whether this WG is interested in solving > this issue. We need to here from more folks and its relevant usecases. > > > > Thanks > > Partha > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: sipcore-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:sipcore-bounces@ietf.org] On > >> Behalf Of Paul Kyzivat > >> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 9:28 PM > >> To: sipcore@ietf.org > >> Subject: Re: [sipcore] Open issues in draft-ietf-sipcore-sip- > websocket- > >> 09 > >> > >> On 6/19/13 6:05 PM, Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > >>> 2013/6/19 Parthasarathi R <partha@parthasarathi.co.in>: > >>>> > >>>> Just adding to Ranjit mentioned. The text similar to the following > >> has to be added. "Record-route header MUST be added by SIP WebSocket > >> Server in case WebSocket is the only supported SIP transport between > >> SIP WebSocket client & server and SIP WebSocket server acts as SIP > >> proxy" > >>> > >>> That is just true in case the client is a web browser (a SIP WS > >> Client > >>> but not a SIP WS Server so it can not receive incoming WS > >>> connections). So the text would be: > >>> > >>> "Record-route header MUST be added by SIP WebSocket Server in case > >>> WebSocket is the only supported SIP transport between client and > >>> server, the server acts as SIP proxy, and the client is a SIP > >>> WebSocket Client (but not a SIP WebSocket Server so it can not > accept > >>> incoming WebSocket connections)." > >> > >> How will the server know that the client is not capable of being a > >> WebSocket Server? > >> > >> I guess in many cases it might be able to know that because the > client > >> is a browser being controlled by scripting from the server. But in > >> other > >> cases ISTM that it just won't know. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Paul > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> sipcore mailing list > >> sipcore@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipcore > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > sipcore mailing list > sipcore@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipcore
- [sipcore] Open isues in draft-ietf-sipcore-sip-we… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [sipcore] Open issues in draft-ietf-sipcore-s… Parthasarathi R
- Re: [sipcore] Open issues in draft-ietf-sipcore-s… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [sipcore] Open issues in draft-ietf-sipcore-s… Parthasarathi R
- Re: [sipcore] Open issues in draft-ietf-sipcore-s… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [sipcore] Open issues in draft-ietf-sipcore-s… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [sipcore] Open issues in draft-ietf-sipcore-s… Parthasarathi R
- Re: [sipcore] Open issues in draft-ietf-sipcore-s… Parthasarathi R
- Re: [sipcore] Open issues in draft-ietf-sipcore-s… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [sipcore] Open issues in draft-ietf-sipcore-s… Avasarala, Ranjit (NSN - IN/Bangalore)
- Re: [sipcore] Open issues in draft-ietf-sipcore-s… Parthasarathi R
- Re: [sipcore] Open issues in draft-ietf-sipcore-s… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [sipcore] Open issues in draft-ietf-sipcore-s… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [sipcore] Open issues in draft-ietf-sipcore-s… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [sipcore] Open issues in draft-ietf-sipcore-s… Parthasarathi R
- Re: [sipcore] Open issues in draft-ietf-sipcore-s… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [sipcore] Open issues in draft-ietf-sipcore-s… Michael Procter
- Re: [sipcore] Open issues in draft-ietf-sipcore-s… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [sipcore] Open issues in draft-ietf-sipcore-s… Michael Procter
- Re: [sipcore] Open issues in draft-ietf-sipcore-s… Parthasarathi R
- Re: [sipcore] Open issues in draft-ietf-sipcore-s… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [sipcore] Open issues in draft-ietf-sipcore-s… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [sipcore] Open issues in draft-ietf-sipcore-s… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [sipcore] Open issues in draft-ietf-sipcore-s… Parthasarathi R