Re: [sipcore] draft-barnes-sipcore-rfc4244bis
"Francois Audet" <audet@nortel.com> Thu, 09 July 2009 21:29 UTC
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From: Francois Audet <audet@nortel.com>
To: Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@cisco.com>, Dale Worley <dworley@nortel.com>
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Subject: Re: [sipcore] draft-barnes-sipcore-rfc4244bis
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Dale, Paul, Good catch. The intent was not to impose an ordering requirement: the intent was to impose that the hi-index parameter be present. Paul: in RFC4244 there was NO ordering requirement. What we are trying to achieve with the ABNF is: - No ordering requirement - There MUST be exactly ONE hi-index - There MUST be 0 or 1 hi-target parameter - There MUST be 0 or 1 hi-aor parameter - There MAY be any number of hi-extension I now see the current ABNF fails miserably to do this... But I don't think it's trivial to express in ABNF. So I think then that Dale's semantic is better, and we just need to clearly state that index must be present, and that there can be only 0 or 1 of each of hi-target and hi-aor. > -----Original Message----- > From: sipcore-bounces@ietf.org > [mailto:sipcore-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Paul Kyzivat > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 11:40 > To: Worley, Dale (BL60:9D30) > Cc: SIPCORE > Subject: Re: [sipcore] draft-barnes-sipcore-rfc4244bis > > Dale, > > I agree with your concern about the BNF. A requirement about > the ordering of the params is problematic. > > OTOH, this is a revision to an existing RFC which had that > ordering requirement. Its possible that relaxing it might > lead to interop problems. > > Perhaps the best one can do is put in a recommendation to > make the index first. > > Regarding indicating that the index is required: it can be > done in text, but it can also be done in the BNF, as follows: > > History-Info = "History-Info" HCOLON hi-entry *(COMMA hi-entry) > > hi-entry = hi-targeted-to-uri hi-param-list > > hi-targeted-to-uri = name-addr > > hi-param-list = *(SEMI hi-option) SEMI hi-index *(hi-option) > > hi-option = hi-target / hi-aor / hi-extension > > hi-index = "index" EQUAL 1*DIGIT *("." 1*DIGIT) > > hi-target = "rc" / "cc" / "mp" / "rt" > > hi-aor = "aor" > > hi-extension = generic-param > > > Thanks, > Paul > > > Dale Worley wrote: > > Regarding the BNF for the History-Info header (section 4.1 in the > > draft version of -02): > > > > The current BNF requires that the "index" parameter appear > immediately > > after the URI, whereas other parameters appear after it: > > > > History-Info = "History-Info" HCOLON hi-entry *(COMMA hi-entry) > > > > hi-entry = hi-targeted-to-uri SEMI hi-index *(SEMI hi-param) > > > > hi-targeted-to-uri = name-addr > > > > hi-index = "index" EQUAL 1*DIGIT *("." 1*DIGIT) > > > > hi-param = hi-target/hi-aor/hi-extension > > > > hi-target = "rc" / "cc" / "mp" / "rt" > > > > hi-aor = "aor" > > > > hi-extension = generic-param > > > > IMHO, this is not a good way to organize the grammar, as it > makes it > > difficult to generate hi-entry's with generic code (there > needs to be > > some way to constrain the "index" parameter to be first), > and violates > > the general rule that the order of parameters is not significant. > > > > I propose to adjust the BNF to: > > > > History-Info = "History-Info" HCOLON hi-entry *(COMMA hi-entry) > > > > hi-entry = hi-targeted-to-uri *(SEMI hi-param) > > > > hi-targeted-to-uri = name-addr > > > > hi-param = hi-index / hi-target / hi-aor / hi-extension > > > > hi-index = "index" EQUAL 1*DIGIT *("." 1*DIGIT) > > > > hi-target = "rc" / "cc" / "mp" / "rt" > > > > hi-aor = "aor" > > > > hi-extension = generic-param > > > > Of course, the "index" parameter is still mandatory per the > semantic > > constraints listed earlier in section 4.1. > > > > I've also inserted into the hi-index BNF some spaces around the > > instances of "/" for better readability. > > > > Dale > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > sipcore mailing list > > sipcore@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipcore > > > _______________________________________________ > sipcore mailing list > sipcore@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipcore >
- [sipcore] draft-barnes-sipcore-rfc4244bis Dale Worley
- Re: [sipcore] draft-barnes-sipcore-rfc4244bis Dale Worley
- [sipcore] draft-barnes-sipcore-rfc4244bis Dale Worley
- Re: [sipcore] draft-barnes-sipcore-rfc4244bis Francois Audet
- [sipcore] draft-barnes-sipcore-rfc4244bis Dale Worley
- Re: [sipcore] draft-barnes-sipcore-rfc4244bis Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [sipcore] draft-barnes-sipcore-rfc4244bis Hans Erik van Elburg
- Re: [sipcore] draft-barnes-sipcore-rfc4244bis Dale Worley
- Re: [sipcore] draft-barnes-sipcore-rfc4244bis Francois Audet
- Re: [sipcore] draft-barnes-sipcore-rfc4244bis Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [sipcore] draft-barnes-sipcore-rfc4244bis Francois Audet
- Re: [sipcore] draft-barnes-sipcore-rfc4244bis Hadriel Kaplan
- [sipcore] draft-barnes-sipcore-rfc4244bis Cullen Jennings
- Re: [sipcore] draft-barnes-sipcore-rfc4244bis Worley, Dale R (Dale)
- Re: [sipcore] draft-barnes-sipcore-rfc4244bis Cullen Jennings
- Re: [sipcore] draft-barnes-sipcore-rfc4244bis Worley, Dale R (Dale)
- Re: [sipcore] draft-barnes-sipcore-rfc4244bis Shida Schubert
- Re: [sipcore] draft-barnes-sipcore-rfc4244bis Worley, Dale R (Dale)