Re: [sipcore] Location Conveyance -04 submitted, here's the changes
"Richard L. Barnes" <rbarnes@bbn.com> Wed, 27 October 2010 11:59 UTC
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Subject: Re: [sipcore] Location Conveyance -04 submitted, here's the changes
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Thanks a lot for revising this document. I'm pretty comfortable with the document at this point, but have just one minor question: Why are you still limiting the number of location values? Why are three values harmful, but not two? This still seems like pointless ABNF legislation. --Richard On Oct 27, 2010, at 12:32 AM, James M. Polk wrote: > SIPCORE > > I've submitted the next version of Location Conveyance (-04) > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-sipcore-location-conveyance-04.txt > and I believe this version has addressed each open item from the > mailing list, as well as what was discussed and agreed to in the > Maastricht meeting. > > I have attempted to identify each open issue with the specific > resolution here (in no particular order): > > - Martin wanted Section 3 to be broken up into subsections, each > revolving around each of the 4 diagrams. I have done this. > > - allowed a maximum of two (up from one) locationValues to be > present in the Geolocation header value. The text however recommends > against inserting a second value. This was agreed to in Maastricht. > > - Because we're allowing a max of two locationValues, they can be in > separate Geolocation headers in the SIP request. This scenario > necessitates bring a previous version's paragraph in stating that a > 'SIP intermediary MUST inspect all instances of each Geolocation > header before considering the routing-allowed parameter to be > considered =yes', to ensure there isn't a conflict in the 'other' > Geolocation header that states the policy is =no. > > - with the ability to add a second locationValue, it is necessary to > warn against doing this (confusion at the LRs). > > - Added the "you break it you bought it" philosophy to SIP > intermediaries that choose to insert a second location where one > already existed, especially for inserting a location URI in the > downstream SIP request. > > - Fixed the ABNF to handle zero, one or two (but no more) > locationValues according to the agreement in Maastricht. There is a > one-off use case which won't be in play very often, but is a WG item > in ECRIT that several wanted to allow the possibility for (involving > allowing one coarse and one highly accurate location in the same SIP > request). > > - Paul K. wanted the use-case in which a SIP intermediary inserts a > locationValue where one didn't exist previously, and received a 424 > (Bad Location Information) to that inserted location, from having > the 424 propagate towards the UAC (as the UAC might not know what to > do with a 424). This is now covered in Section 4.3. > > - changed existing text to "MUST NOT" from "does not" about a 424 > not terminating an existing dialog (just increased the strength of > this. > > - I added the 424 to the table 2 entry in which the Geolocation > header can be in only this response. > > - I added text stating the conditions for adding a Geolocation > header value to the 424, to make it clear what is and what isn't > allowed for this. > > - Martin wanted me to add back in the top level Geolocation-Error > codes 100, 200, 300 and 400, which I did in section 4.3. > > - rejected the idea that the geolocation option-tag hasn't been > justified. > > - Added RFCs 2616, 2818 and HELD Deref ID to the references section > because I added the ability to include HTTP: and HTTPS: URIs, and > stated if received, they should be dereferenced according to the > HELD Deref doc. > > - changed the Section 5 examples how Martin wanted them. > > - Stated that GEO-URIs are not appropriate for the SIP Geolocation > header, according to the discussion during the Maastricht Geopriv > meeting. > > - we changed the privacy section, and included a ref to the Geopriv > Arch doc, according to the agreement in Geopriv at Maastricht. > > > Comments are encouraged > > We plan to request (3rd?) WGLC during the SIPCORE meeting in Beijing > (to give folks a sense of our plans). > > James/Brian/Jon > > > _______________________________________________ > sipcore mailing list > sipcore@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipcore
- [sipcore] Location Conveyance -04 submitted, here… James M. Polk
- Re: [sipcore] Location Conveyance -04 submitted, … Richard L. Barnes
- Re: [sipcore] Location Conveyance -04 submitted, … Elwell, John
- Re: [sipcore] Location Conveyance -04 submitted, … James M. Polk
- Re: [sipcore] Location Conveyance -04 submitted, … James M. Polk
- Re: [sipcore] Location Conveyance -04 submitted, … Elwell, John
- Re: [sipcore] Location Conveyance -04 submitted, … James M. Polk
- Re: [sipcore] Location Conveyance -04 submitted, … Elwell, John
- Re: [sipcore] Location Conveyance -04 submitted, … Richard L. Barnes
- Re: [sipcore] Location Conveyance -04 submitted, … DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [sipcore] Location Conveyance -04 submitted, … Peterson, Jon
- Re: [sipcore] Location Conveyance -04 submitted, … Thomson, Martin
- Re: [sipcore] Location Conveyance -04 submitted, … James M. Polk
- Re: [sipcore] Location Conveyance -04 submitted, … James M. Polk
- Re: [sipcore] Location Conveyance -04 submitted, … James M. Polk
- Re: [sipcore] Location Conveyance -04 submitted, … hannu.hietalahti
- Re: [sipcore] Location Conveyance -04 submitted, … DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [sipcore] Location Conveyance -04 submitted, … hannu.hietalahti
- Re: [sipcore] Location Conveyance -04 submitted, … Elwell, John
- Re: [sipcore] Location Conveyance -04 submitted, … DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [sipcore] Location Conveyance -04 submitted, … Elwell, John
- Re: [sipcore] Location Conveyance -04 submitted, … Peterson, Jon
- Re: [sipcore] Location Conveyance -04 submitted, … Richard L. Barnes
- Re: [sipcore] Location Conveyance -04 submitted, … Elwell, John
- Re: [sipcore] Location Conveyance -04 submitted, … hannu.hietalahti
- Re: [sipcore] Location Conveyance -04 submitted, … hannu.hietalahti
- Re: [sipcore] Location Conveyance -04 submitted, … Elwell, John