Re: [sipcore] Draft new version: draft-holmberg-sipcore-proxy-feature

<R.Jesske@telekom.de> Thu, 27 January 2011 15:18 UTC

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:20:52 +0100
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Subject: Re: [sipcore] Draft new version: draft-holmberg-sipcore-proxy-feature
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Hi Paul,
I tried to express a possible use case more in general.
So "emergency" means that the Call is passed through an Server that assures that a INVITE with a URI addressing a emergency number e.g. 110@domain or 999@domain or it could also use sos@domain will be handled correctly by the AS and will be forwarded to the next emergency centre.

My example was pointing to a use-case that could be happen within the internet, when service provider will support emergency. Und the user will be informed that he is sure that the emergency call will be passed through with the first INVITE. And not waiting for certain responses if the call will not succeed.

My intension was to try to point to possible internet applications that could use Christers draft.

Best Regards

Roland

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: sipcore-bounces@ietf.org
> [mailto:sipcore-bounces@ietf.org] Im Auftrag von Paul Kyzivat
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 26. Januar 2011 18:35
> An: sipcore@ietf.org
> Betreff: Re: [sipcore] Draft new version:
> draft-holmberg-sipcore-proxy-feature
>
> inline
>
> On 1/26/2011 8:07 AM, R.Jesske@telekom.de wrote:
> > Hi,
> > there is an scenario which I would see also within the
> Internet approach. Perhaps others too.
> >
> > When you register it would be useful to know if the proper
> emergency service is served by the provider you are connected to.
> > Such an explicit indication would help.
> >
> >
> >     Alice                             P1
>  REGISTRAR
> >            |                           |                           |
> >            |--- REGISTER-------------->|                           |
> >            |                           |                           |
> >            |                           |--- REGISTER-------------->|
> >            |                           |    Path: P1;emergency     |
> >            |                           |                           |
> >            |                           |                           |
> >            |                           |<-- 200 OK ----------------|
> >            |                           |    Path: P1;emergency     |
> >            |                           |    Service-Route: REG     |
> >            |<-- 200 OK ----------------|                           |
> >            |    Path: P1;emergency     |                           |
> >            |    Service-Route: REG     |                           |
> >            |                           |                           |
> >
> > So that Alice is now sure that an emergency call will get
> thought and the correct emergency centre will be reached.
> Which is not even guaranteed in an pure internet environment
> depended which service provider is chosen.
>
> Why is presence of this parameter on *Path* appropriate? Path has
> nothing to do with new calls originated by Alice. If anything were
> relevant, it would be Service-Route, which Alice would
> include in Route
> when making a new call.
>
> And, what does the "emergency" capability *mean*? Does it
> mean that it
> can route requests with urn:sos as the R-URI? Or that it
> recognizes URIs
> containing dial strings that contain emergency numbers? Or
> what? (If the
> latter, emergency numbers for what locale(s)?, and encoded in
> what manner?)
>
> But, why is this needed? Why not just send the request and cope with
> failure to route if/when it happens?
>
>       Thanks,
>       Paul
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