Re: [sipcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-sipcore-callinfo-spam
Henning Schulzrinne <hgs@cs.columbia.edu> Thu, 07 June 2018 22:43 UTC
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From: Henning Schulzrinne <hgs@cs.columbia.edu>
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2018 18:42:34 -0400
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Subject: Re: [sipcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-sipcore-callinfo-spam
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Not great, but here's my new wording: SIP proxies or B2BUAs MUST add a new Call-Info "info" header field instance, rather than add parameters to an existing one. Thus, there MAY be several Call-Info header instances of purpose "info" in one request, either as a single header with a comma-separated list or separate headers, or some combination. Let me know if that's sufficiently clear. Henning On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 9:37 PM, Dale R. Worley <worley@ariadne.com> wrote: > "A. Jean Mahoney" <mahoney@nostrum.com> writes: > > Working Group Last Call starts today for draft-ietf-sipcore-callinfo- > spam. > > 3. Overview of Operation > > SIP proxies or B2BUAs MUST add a new Call-Info "info" header field > instance, rather than add parameters to an existing one. Thus, there > MAY be several Call-Info header fields of purpose "info" in one > request. > > This is correct, but I misread it the first time. The grammar of > Call-Info is: > > Call-Info = "Call-Info" HCOLON info *(COMMA info) > info = LAQUOT absoluteURI RAQUOT *( SEMI info-param) > info-param = ( "purpose" EQUAL ( "icon" / "info" > / "card" / token ) ) / generic-param > > and the above text means that a device may not add further info-param's > to an existing info. But it may add additional info's to an existing > Call-Info, rather than using separate header fields. > > However, it's easy to misread as meaning that the following is not > allowed: > > Call-Info: <http://wwww.example.com/ > 5974c8d942f120351143> ;source=carrier.example.com > ;purpose=info ;confidence=85 ;type=fraud ;reason="FTC list", > <data:> ;source=other.example.com > ;purpose=info ;confidence=20 ;type=prison > > Is there a way to phrase this that is less easy to misread? >
- Re: [sipcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-sipcore-callinfo-s… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [sipcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-sipcore-callinfo-s… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [sipcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-sipcore-callinfo-s… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [sipcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-sipcore-callinfo-s… Henning Schulzrinne
- [sipcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-sipcore-callinfo-spam A. Jean Mahoney
- Re: [sipcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-sipcore-callinfo-s… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [sipcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-sipcore-callinfo-s… Dale R. Worley
- Re: [sipcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-sipcore-callinfo-s… Dale R. Worley