Re: [sipcore] SIP authentication using EC-SRP5 protocol

Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> Tue, 10 March 2015 15:10 UTC

Return-Path: <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu>
X-Original-To: sipcore@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: sipcore@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C3A11A00E8 for <sipcore@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Mar 2015 08:10:28 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.235
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.235 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uwmfLyooTXex for <sipcore@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Mar 2015 08:10:26 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from resqmta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe16:19:96:114:154:163]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F1191A0016 for <sipcore@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Mar 2015 08:10:20 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from resomta-po-05v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.229]) by resqmta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 1rAA1q0064xDoy801rALEj; Tue, 10 Mar 2015 15:10:20 +0000
Received: from Paul-Kyzivats-MacBook-Pro.local ([50.138.229.151]) by resomta-po-05v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 1rAK1q00a3Ge9ey01rALAt; Tue, 10 Mar 2015 15:10:20 +0000
Message-ID: <54FF095B.7040805@alum.mit.edu>
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 11:10:19 -0400
From: Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: sipcore@ietf.org
References: <267098f4.14b60.14c025f1300.Coremail.lfw_frank@163.com>
In-Reply-To: <267098f4.14b60.14c025f1300.Coremail.lfw_frank@163.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; format="flowed"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20140121; t=1426000220; bh=NMfW73P9tT69pf+10buOSYT2hKm8A5rerLHbf3wniSI=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=Mb4jBfzq6FXB0F2WPKcICNCCz0okvH8/yG41CJBpjFp+dEiMPj6G/cIqXzYfngcId 5ifG26HJ9RYV+zoWpTK6Sn9AFikpQutbyarzpNaK5K62IdlGWAZ5/obA1BP3iWtAjY ixhc0KafvMkIxEOjaQ6xX0KUIIlWHgEFF9YrlDSzqZlKuWEqG4qF++Y3zHjzNc+2WS k4cRsYw29AYotyhqLp8mJrQukPXlocwGeN+IfOksf+RBxzWSk6NlkJrUesZV6mn61w vVCXOO3uFDRH3o++ZPw/OgrLJlQu8IXI2XyqnFqVCnliw3/Xz3E/MNFhW/O5ZdiMRt xnwDtTV7BuigQ==
Archived-At: <http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/sipcore/tKfGvPkspMcxhjA6DnSs5tqOTsE>
Subject: Re: [sipcore] SIP authentication using EC-SRP5 protocol
X-BeenThere: sipcore@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15
Precedence: list
List-Id: SIP Core Working Group <sipcore.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/sipcore>, <mailto:sipcore-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sipcore/>
List-Post: <mailto:sipcore@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:sipcore-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipcore>, <mailto:sipcore-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 15:10:28 -0000

Dr. Liu,

I just now quickly reviewed your draft. Let me first say that I am *not* 
expert in security and encryption. Since that is the primary focus of 
this draft I will be looking for comments from experts on that.

I did not see any mention of how you propose to integrate this approach 
into SIP. Is it your intent to reuse the Authorization and 
Authentication-Info header fields? Or do you intend to introduce some 
other mechanism to exchange the information you use?

	Thanks,
	Paul

On 3/10/15 2:28 AM, lfw_frank wrote:
> hi, all
>
> We have just uploaded a draft regarding SIP authentication, which can be
> seen at the link
>
> http://www.ietf.org/staging/draft-liu-sipcore-ec-srp-00.txt
>
> It is known that SIP authentication suffers from off-line dictionary
> attacks due to the use of weak authentication scheme (HTTP digest
> authentication). Our proposal is to apply the strong password
> authentication scheme EC-SRP5  to SIP authentication. SIP Client and
> server perform mutual authenticate by using the modern 'zero knowledge'
> method without disclosing the password in the process. It is resilient
> to various kinds of attacks, including off-line dictionary attacks.
> Moreover,  it has low computation complexity and low bandwidth
> consumption due to the use of elliptical curve cryptography.
>
> This is the first version of our proposal. It is unavoidable that there
> are errors in the document.  Any comments and suggestions are highly
> desired.
>
> Best regards
>
> Dr. Fuwen Liu
>
> Chinamobile
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sipcore mailing list
> sipcore@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipcore
>