Re: [sipcore] #38: How is the mapping of a GRUU into its UA Contact marked?

Shida Schubert <shida@ntt-at.com> Fri, 03 September 2010 14:16 UTC

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Subject: Re: [sipcore] #38: How is the mapping of a GRUU into its UA Contact marked?
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Paul,

 It sounds like you are advocating not to tag GRUU 
the mapped-to entry with "rc" and treat it like an 
AoR. 

 I too think it's cleaner to leave GRUU out of tagging.

 Whether "gr" parameter appears in the H-I is self 
made or not, UAS receiving the request can look for  
"gr" param in the H-I and determine if the request 
was meant for registerer generated GRUU or self 
made. 

 Regards
  Shida

On Sep 3, 2010, at 9:52 PM, Paul Kyzivat wrote:

> Be very careful here. RFC 5627 describes a technique for constructing gruus that are associated with AORs. It also describes "self made GRUUs" which are simply URIs that are naturally globally routable. Both kinds get the gr parameter. Self made gruus may have *no* association with an AOR at all.
> 
> While it might "work", tagging a self made gruu as an AOR would at least be confusing.
> 
> 	Thanks,
> 	Paul
> 
> Shida Schubert wrote:
>> I just re-read GRUU and realized that, for some reason I thought public GRUU was specified as a type of AoR in the spec.  I guess the question then is whether we want to expand the semantics of "rc" to include GRUU's mapping to contact address.
>>  After all GRUU can still be identified in the H-I using the "gr" parameter, so keeping the text as is may not be such a big deal. So may be adding text to identify GRUU in H-I is all we need.  Regards
>>  Shida
>> On Sep 3, 2010, at 3:53 AM, Worley, Dale R (Dale) wrote:
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: sipcore-bounces@ietf.org [sipcore-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Shida Schubert [shida@ntt-at.com]
>>> 
>>> AFAIK mapping of GRUU to registered contact
>>> when proxy is retargeting will result to registered
>>> contact marked with "rc".
>>> ________________________________________
>>> 
>>> A GRUU is not an AOR and the text states that "rc" is to be used *only* for the mappings from AORs to their registered contacts.
>>> 
>>> Dale
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