(sipp) ICMP Destination unreachable and options
"Daniel L. McDonald" <danmcd@sundance.itd.nrl.navy.mil> Thu, 04 August 1994 14:18 UTC
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Subject: (sipp) ICMP Destination unreachable and options
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I mailed this to ipng, but figured since many bit twiddlers still read SIPP, I'd send it here too. =====================(Cut up to and including here.)====================== Under IP, or at least IP inside BSD Net/2 (Reno), when a Destination Unreachable is generated by UDP, the IP options are stripped. My subsequent question is two-fold: 1. Should a higher level protocol (like UDP) strip IPng options from a packet before sending Dest. Unreachable so that the source of the offending packet can send the incoming Dest. Unreachable to its appropriate higher-level protocol? 2. If not, what if the options (like a monstrously large source route) take all of the 576 bytes allowed for ICMP messages? How does my IPng module deal with this? Let me illustrate with an example. Let's say I send a UDP message with a source route to a machine. The header chain will look like: 0 40 n +------------+----------------+------------------------ | SIPP hdr | Routing header | UDP header + data | | | | Next Hdr = | Next Header = | | Routing | UDP | +------------+----------------+------------------------ Now let's say the UDP header specifies a port that has no listeners. The receiving UDP module will send an ICMP Dest. Unreachable with code Port Unreachable. What will the ICMP message look like? Will it look like this? <----- Offending packet, up to 576 bytes ---> (Potentially might not include UDP header. Think of n > 526. ) 0 40 48 88 n+48 +------------+-----++-----------+----------------+------------------ | SIPP hdr |I D U||(Bad) SIPP | Routing header | UDP header + data | |C e n||Header | | | Next Hdr = |M s r||Next Hdr = | Next Header = | | ICMP |P t c|| Routing | UDP | +------------+-----++-----------+----------------+------------------ Or will it look like.... 0 40 48 88 +------------+-----++-----------+------------------ | SIPP hdr |I D U||(Bad) SIPP | UDP header + data | |C e n||Header | | Next Hdr = |M s r||Next Hdr = | | ICMP |P t c|| UDP | +------------+-----++-----------+------------------ If it is the former, my IPng module will have to potentially parse through the headers of the included offending packet to know to deliver the ICMP message to UDP. If the latter, my UDP module will have to strip options, much like UDP modules do in current IP on BSD Net/2. Also, if this is true, my IPng module may have to strip options in the case of destination unreachable codes and packet too big code. IWBNI anybody who's done SIPP-8s and ICMPs already would speak up on this. Thanks a ton! Dan McD. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ IETF SIPP Working Group - Archives: parcftp.xerox.com:/pub/sipp Unsubscribe: unsubscribe sipp (as message body, not subject) Direct all administrative requests to majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com
- (sipp) ICMP Destination unreachable and options Daniel L. McDonald