Re: [Sipping-emergency] Emergency Scenarios Document
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> centresin the PSTN, the scenarios involving stationary or nomadic SIP spelling > phones are described and then alternative strategies for supporting > the information flows for the scenarios needed to meet these > requirements are examined. The analysis presented here is a > necessary step in defining the SIP specific requirements for invoking > emergency assistance and understanding the level of functionality > that can be provided by existing SIP devices and network elements and > that which requires further development. > in the European Market in general, or 000 in Australia. (Globally I thought it was European Community? > there are about 60 different emergency services numbers in use [4].) > This document uses the term SIP phone to denote a device which plugs > into a wired network. This can be a either a physical phone device > or a PC running a software based SIP client (often referred to as a > SIP softphone). These devices can be stationary or nomadic. Why a wired network? I think the issues for a PDA or laptop or even a phone (via an Ethernet-to-802.11 bridge) that connects via an 802.11 hotspot are fairly similar. > > Scenarios involving cellular phones using SIP signalling are not > necessarily considered, because the current expectation is that they > use the emergency service solutions devised for cellular phones in > general. However, it is anticipated that many aspects of a general > SIP signaling solution could apply to those scenarios. The > requirements for Wi-Fi enabled devices (e.g. a SIP softphone with Wi- > Fi access, a Wi-Fi phone etc.) using SIP signalling are considered > from the perspective that these devices can be represented as nomadic > SIP users and thus addressed by several of the scenarios described in > this document. I would not make the distinction up front. > "legacy" is used to refer to "Enhanced 911" functionality.) You mean 'basic 911'? > the difference in medium and the fact that a different number may be > dialed to initiate the call. I think all single-number systems support TDD on the same number; that's at least true for 911, as far as I know. > (1) The caller requires an easily-remembered, location-independent > means of identifying an emergency call. Moreover, it must be > possible to indicate whether this is a voice call or one to be > directed to a text ECC. I don't think so. I think the 911 destination listens for the TDD modem tone and then switches to a TDD. This is not by number. > > (5) The ECC operator can stay in touch with the caller, even though > the telephone set goes on hook for an intervening period. An > example of when this is useful is if the caller, feeling unwell, > accidentally drops the telephone back onto its cradle, but then > is able to retrieve it. As discussed previously, this is not a universal feature. This is more of an urban legend at this point :-) > > (6) Emergency calls are given priority handling in call processing > and high quality media connections. (The quality of media > connections is outside the scope of this document.) Again, I don't think this is generally true, at least in the US. > > (7) The caller can be held accountable for the call, to dissuade > callers from misuse of the system. If you ignore pay phones :-) > > 3.3 Legacy System Operation > > In the legacy network, the public telephone system operator is > responsible for maintaining the mapping database. This is imprecise - at least in the US, there is no 'the' telephone system operator. It is generally the ILEC, but I think it would be unhelpful to imply that we live in pre-1984/pre-1996 land. > the location. Alternatively, various locations can be identified > within the business and assigned a pseudo directory number (DN), Even for phones with DID, extensions are usually not visible to the outside. (I've tried it - all of our extensions show up as 7000. We have DID in 7000 to 7199.) > A special arrangement at the switch serving the ECC allows the > emergency operator to hold open the voice path back to the caller as > long as necessary, even if the caller goes on-hook. It should be > noted that this functionality is not supported for ISDN. Thus, the > operator can also ring the caller's line in this situation or others > where it might be necessary. I would qualify this as "In analog switches, ....". Most switches today are effectively ISDN (or equivalent), so this feature is likely only available to a tiny fraction of end systems. > 4.1 A General Look At The Problem at the > signalling passes through other intelligent elements -- SIP proxies > and a gateway -- before reaching the telephone network. The SIP A SIP proxy isn't mandatory. [More in next message.] _______________________________________________ Sipping-emergency mailing list Sipping-emergency@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipping-emergency
- [Sipping-emergency] Emergency Scenarios Document Tom Taylor
- [Sipping-emergency] [Fwd: RE: Emergency Scenarios… Tom Taylor
- Re: [Sipping-emergency] Emergency Scenarios Docum… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [Sipping-emergency] Emergency Scenarios Docum… Henning Schulzrinne
- RE: [Sipping-emergency] Emergency Scenarios Docum… McCalmont, Patti
- Re: [Sipping-emergency] Emergency Scenarios Docum… Tom Taylor
- RE: [Sipping-emergency] Emergency Scenarios Docum… dick.rr.knight
- Re: [Sipping-emergency] Emergency Scenarios Docum… Tom Taylor