[Sipping-emergency] [Fwd: Report on sipemergency call]
Tom Taylor <taylor@nortelnetworks.com> Thu, 03 April 2003 20:09 UTC
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Apologies for the duplication. I've forwarded Dean's minutes to the complete sipping-emergency list so James can see where I'm coming from in doing the scenarios document. There was a bit of discussion following these minutes, so you may want to consult the archives. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Report on sipemergency call Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 13:49:52 -0600 From: Dean Willis <dean.willis@softarmor.com> To: 'Jonathan Rosenberg' <jdrosen@dynamicsoft.com>om>, 'Jon Peterson (jon.peterson@NeuStar.com)' <jon.peterson@neustar.biz>iz>, 'Rohan Mahy' <rohan@cisco.com>om>, 'Henning Schulzrinne' <hgs@cs.columbia.edu>du>, Taylor, Tom-PT [CAR:5N00:EXCH]<taylor@americasm01.nt.com>, 'Gonzalo Camarillo' <Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com>om>, <mankin@psg.com>om>, Barnes, Mary [NGC:B602:EXCH]<mbarnes@americasm01.nt.com> CC: <dean.willis@softarmor.com> Given the scheduling confusion, the call proceeded with myself, Mary Barnes, Tom Taylor, and Henning Schulzrinne in attendance. Sorry folks -- too many irons in the fire, not enough wranglers to hold the cows down. We discussed both the background and our current knowledge of the situation, including some info that Henning just picked up at VON while talking to Nate Wilcox of the Vermont 911 center. Our current proposal is to proceed with developing a scenarios document which will capture a little of the analysis as well as describing the known main problem modalities. This will provide background for a "guidelines" document that will help implementers understand the limitations and effectively use existing specifications, perhaps including usage conventions. Further analysis of the scenarios and guidelines will provide input to Henning's longer-reaching requirements draft and potential future work on more sophisticated solutions. Tom and Mary have agreed to take a crack at drafting the scenarios document, and will attempt to coordinate the vocabulary with that used in Henning's requirements draft, for example "emergency call center" instead of PSAP. Three "degrees of freedom" in the system were identified: 1) Phones 2) Gateways 3) Emergency call centers Six "information sources" were identified: 1) User of the phone 2) The phone and supporting network 3) Gateways 4) The service provider and its routing systems 5) Emergency call centers 6) Third-party database providers We identified five basic scenarios in the discussion: 1) Stationary SIP phones having known locations and operating with a local gateway. This is essentially the "PBX" problem. 2) Stationary SIP phones having known locations operating with a gateway(s) from a single operator with gateways in the PSAP regions in which phones are located. This might be viewed as the "CLEC" problem. 3) Stationary or low-mobility phones sparsely distributed across a relatively large geographical areas and operating with dynamically selected gateways from a single operator or coalition of operators. This might be labeled the "Vonage" problem, although we probably shouldn't call it that in the draft. 4) Mobile SIP phones operating with a fixed (personal or enterprise) gateway. This might be labeled the "dynamicsoft" problem as it describes my office -- for example, we have a field office in KC with a Texas phone number served by a gateway in Plano. Of course, we probably don't want to use this name for the problem in the draft. 5) Mobile SIP phones operating with a personal gateway. This appears to be a degenerate case of the #4, or did I miss something? To Do items: 1) Gonzalo: Please add myself, Mary, and Tom to the sip-emergency list and SIPPING design team. 2) Mary and Tom: Re-read Henning's draft and begin scenarios draft. 3) All of us: be thinking about how to address the scenarios, and give consideration to internationalization issues. 4) Henning: Adapt requirements draft to consider scenarios draft and likely-to-emerge practices draft. 5) Tom and Mary: Dig out references on existing PSAP functions and routing models 6) Henning: Follow-up with Nate Wilcox from Vermont 911 center Thoughts on proposed "practices" draft. 1) Should document what can be down now, with existing protocols. 2) Should document limitations of existing approaches. For example, in scenario 5, 911 services aren't going to work right. 3) Should NOT identify extensions to protocols. 4) May identify helpful practices outside of pure SIP, such as providing DID numbers for emergency call centers and databases correlating emergency call centers with geoloc. -- Dean _______________________________________________ Sipping-emergency mailing list Sipping-emergency@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipping-emergency
- [Sipping-emergency] Re: Report on sipemergency ca… Gonzalo Camarillo
- [Sipping-emergency] [Fwd: Report on sipemergency … Tom Taylor
- [Sipping-emergency] Re: Report on sipemergency ca… Henning Schulzrinne
- [Sipping-emergency] Re: Report on sipemergency ca… Henning Schulzrinne
- RE: [Sipping-emergency] Re: Report on sipemergenc… Rosen, Brian
- [Sipping-emergency] Re: Report on sipemergency ca… Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sipping-emergency] [Fwd: Report on sipemerge… James M. Polk
- RE: [Sipping-emergency] [Fwd: Report on sipemerge… Dean Willis