Re: [Sipping-tispan] Requirements -02h

[Miguel Garcia <[e-mail]>]

Hi Mike:

As I clarifed in another e-mail to Paul, I think you are right in 
considering the globabality of 6xx responce codes.

/Miguel

Michael Hammer (mhammer) wrote:

> Miguel,
> 
> In the PSTN, it is not so much a declining of a CCBS request as it is an
> indication in the Release Cause Diagnostics that CCBS is possible.  If
> CCBS is not indicated as possible, then the service is never initiated.
> 
> I didn't understand the meaning of declining a recall putting it into
> suspended state.  Is that a permanent suspension?  Normally a resume
> would take one out of the suspended state and allow a busy free
> indication to cause the recall to proceed.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Miguel Garcia [mailto:[e-mail]] 
>>Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 7:52 AM
>>To: Michael Hammer (mhammer)
>>Cc: Elwell, John; [e-mail]; Alexeitsev, D
>>Subject: Re: [Sipping-tispan] Requirements -02h
>>
>>Yeap, I agree. I posted also a question as for a decline 
>>should have the same effect. There is currently no "decline" 
>>in PSTN, although it exists in mobile networks, and IMHO a 
>>decline to a ccbs recall should make the ccbs request to be 
>>placed as suspended.
>>
>>/Miguel
>>
>>Michael Hammer (mhammer) wrote:
>>
>>
>>>This appears to be a consequence of the multi-terminal 
>>
>>status union, 
>>
>>>meaning that some centralized entity (could be co-located with one
>>>terminal) would need to keep track of the call state of all the 
>>>terminals representing that user (AoR).  If any one of 
>>
>>those terminal 
>>
>>>is busy, then the caller is busy.  Only when all terminals 
>>
>>are unbusy, 
>>
>>>then the caller is deemed free to participate in the call 
>>
>>completion.
>>
>>>That assumes that only one human uses all the terminals.  If it is 
>>>possible for more than one person to use those terminals, 
>>
>>there could 
>>
>>>be a problem.  Picture the teenage daughter (son) yacking 
>>
>>away while 
>>
>>>the father (mother) is trying to use CCBS to complete an 
>>
>>important call.
>>
>>>How one sets up the relationship from terminals to AoRs can 
>>
>>be tricky.
>>
>>>Perhaps some indication of CCBS from this terminal only 
>>
>>would be useful.
>>
>>>At least that is how I am interpreting the requirements.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: [e-mail] 
>>>>[mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Elwell, John
>>>>Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 8:49 AM
>>>>To: Miguel Garcia; '[e-mail]'
>>>>Cc: Alexeitsev, D
>>>>Subject: RE: [Sipping-tispan] Requirements -02h
>>>>
>>>>Miguel,
>>>>
>>>>"REQ-CCBS/CCNR-15: Should the caller be busy at the time of 
>>
>>executing
>>
>>>>                    CCBS/CCNR request, the request is 
>>
>>suspended until
>>
>>>>                    its status changes (back to free status)."
>>>>
>>>>What is meant by caller busy? Is this the human user (or 
>>
>>application)? 
>>
>>>>Or the UA from which CCBS/CCNR was requested?
>>>>Or all the caller's UAs? Or any of the caller's UAs? This 
>>
>>is important 
>>
>>>>as it will determine the SIP signalling needed to determine whether 
>>>>the caller is busy.
>>>>
>>>>John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Miguel Garcia [mailto:[e-mail]]
>>>>>Sent: 30 September 2005 11:00
>>>>>To: '[e-mail]'
>>>>>Cc: Alexeitsev, D
>>>>>Subject: [Sipping-tispan] Requirements -02h
>>>>>
>>>>>ok, so here it goes with a new iteration:
>>>>>
>>>>>http://people.nokia.net/~miguel/drafts/pre/draft-jesske-sippin
>>>>>g-tispan-requirements-02h.txt
>>>>>http://people.nokia.net/~miguel/drafts/pre/draft-jesske-sippin
>>>>>g-tispan-requirements-02h.html
>>>>>
>>>>>And the diff version:
>>>>>http://people.nokia.net/~miguel/drafts/pre/draft-jesske-sippin
>>>>>g-tispan-requirements-02g-to-h.html
>>>>>
>>>>>Changes:
>>>>>- Clarification that we don't list every single 
>>
>>requirement that we 
>>
>>>>>have.
>>>>>- Calling Party Category requirements are now in the 
>>
>>general section
>>
>>>>>- New CCBS/CCNR requirements for the callee to be able to reject a 
>>>>>request for the service and to be able to use any given terminal.
>>>>>- Clear of ACR text related to the override feature.
>>>>>
>>>>>Note that I am still trying to classify my e-mail. Since
>>>>
>>>>you all have
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>been very active in the last few days, I wouldn't be
>>>>
>>>>surprise to see
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>that I have forgotten to add or modify something that has
>>>>
>>>>been agree
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>upon. In such case, please drop me an e-mail and I will add
>>>>
>>>>it in the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>next iteration.
>>>>>
>>>>>/Miguel
>>>>>-- 
>>>>>Miguel A. Garcia           tel:[phone]
>>>>>sip:[e-mail]
>>>>>Nokia Research Center      Helsinki, Finland
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>-- 
>>Miguel A. Garcia           tel:[phone]
>>sip:[e-mail]
>>Nokia Research Center      Helsinki, Finland
> 
> 

-- 
Miguel A. Garcia           tel:[phone]
sip:[e-mail]
Nokia Research Center      Helsinki, Finland


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