RE: [Sipping-tispan] Prioritization of TISPAN requirements in IETF

"Shida Schubert" <dashi@mailblocks.com> Wed, 24 August 2005 22:29 UTC

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Hi Erik;

 I have further questions.

 1. Which requirement group is higher in priority. Is it the regulatory
   requirements or non-regulatory?(I am assuming it's the former)
 2. What does it mean by non-regulatory services? Does it mean its okay
   to degrade the service by few notch when provided on IP?
 3. When do the regulatory requirements need to be satisfied? 
 4. When do the non-regulatory requirements need to be satisfied?

 Regards
  Shida

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sipping-tispan-bounces@ietf.org
> [mailto:sipping-tispan-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Hans Erik van Elburg
> (RY/ETM)
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 7:35 AM
> To: Schmidt, Christian
> Cc: sipping-tispan@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [Sipping-tispan] Prioritization of TISPAN requirements in
IETF
> 
> Hi Christian,
> 
> See comments inline...
> 
> /Hans Erik
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Schmidt, Christian [mailto:christian-schmidt@siemens.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 2:00 PM
> To: Hans Erik van Elburg (RY/ETM)
> Cc: sipping-tispan@ietf.org
> Subject: AW: [Sipping-tispan] Prioritization of TISPAN requirements in
> IETF
> 
> 
> Hi Hans Erik,
> 
> can you please provide some additional information
> - What are the meaning of the numbers for example in (ACR, 3029)?
> HansErik> These are the work item numbers used in TISPAN, with these you
can
> find the latest draft in the TISPAN  drafts directory:
> http://portal.etsi.org/docbox/TISPAN/TISPAN/70-Latest-Drafts/
> For this you need an ETSI password, but that should not be a problem for
your
> company.
> 
> - What are the regulatory boddies involved? Are the regulatory papers
public
> available?
> 
> - Are the attached requirements sufficient, necessary or only helpful to
meet
> the regulatory issues?
> HansErik> The requirements are necessary to create the required service.
> 
> - Is it possible to change requirements, but to still be in line with the
> regulations?
> HansErik> Hard to answer in general. But I think the variable is more the
> solution, not the requirement.
> 
> - What are the provisioning date requirements of these boddies, related to
the
> different services?
> 
> Regards,
> Christian Schmidt
> 
> PS: REQ-GEN-2 is missing, I assume it it non-regulatory as well.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: sipping-tispan-bounces@ietf.org
> [mailto:sipping-tispan-bounces@ietf.org] Im Auftrag von Hans Erik van
Elburg
> (RY/ETM)
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 24. August 2005 11:03
> An: TISPAN_WG3@LIST.ETSI.ORG; sipping-tispan@ietf.org
> Betreff: [Sipping-tispan] Prioritization of TISPAN requirements in IETF
> 
> 
> 	Hi,
> 
> 	In order to speed up the advancement f the TISPAN requirements in
IETF
> we think it would be best to prioritize the requirements. One split we
think
> should be uncontroversial is to split the requirements in those that are
induced
> by regulatory requirements and those that are not. And to prioritize the
> regulatory requirements in IETF.
> 
> 	We believe that the following TISPAN simulation services are
> Regulatory:
> 
> 	Regulatory Services
> 	===============
> 	- Originating Identity Presentation/ Originating Identity
> Presentation Restriction (OIP/OIR, 3025)
> 	- OIR override (, 3025)
> 	- Terminating Identity Presentation/ Terminating Identity
> Presentation Restriction (TIP/TIR, 3026)
> 	- Anonymous Communication Rejection (ACR, 3029)
> 	- Malicious Communication Identification (MCID, 3036)
> 
> 
> 	Follows that splitting the requirements in one group of regulatory
> and one group of non-regulatory leads to the following split.
> 
> 	Proposed grouping of TISPAN-IETF simulation service requirements
> 	=================================================
> 	(http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-jesske-sipping-tispan-
> requirements-01.txt)
> 
> 	Regulatory Requirements:
> 	- [REQ-ACR-1]
> 	- [REQ-ACR-2]
> 	- [REQ-TIP-1]
> 	- [REQ-TIP-2]
> 	- [REQ-MCID-1]
> 	- [REQ-MCID-2]
> 
> 	Non-Regulatory Requirements:
> 	- [REQ-GEN-1]
> 	- [REQ-CCBS-1]
> 	- [REQ-CCBS-2]
> 	- [REQ-CCBS-3]
> 	- [REQ-CCBS-4]
> 	- [REQ-CCNR-1]
> 	- [REQ-CCNR-2]
> 	- [REQ-CW-1]
> 	- [REQ-CW-2]
> 	- [REQ-CDIV-1]
> 	- [REQ-CDIV-2]
> 	- [REQ-CDIV-3]
> 	- [REQ-CDIV-4]
> 	- [REQ-CAT-1]
> 	- [REQ-CAT-2]
> 
> 	Whether the grouping can best be reflected in one draft or in
multiple
> drafts shall be made dependent on whether advancement of the TISPAN R1
release
> is held up by a requirements draft that is not fully appoved or not.
> 
> 	Best Regards,
> 
> Hans Erik van Elburg
> System Engineer
> Technology Strategies
> 
> Ericsson Telecommunicatie B.V.
> Research and Development
> P.O. Box 8, 5120AA  Rijen
> The Netherlands
> 
> Tel. +31 161 249889, Fax. +31 161 249904
> sip:hanserik.van.elburg@tas.uab.ericsson.se
> Email: HansErik.van.Elburg@ericsson.com, Internet: http://www.ericsson.nl
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