RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-retargeting-00.txt
"Francois Audet" <audet@nortel.com> Wed, 19 October 2005 19:22 UTC
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Subject: RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-retargeting-00.txt
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> But I don't see it as roughly equivalent to the serice-URI > proposal -- if the service-specific URI information is really > 3087-compliant, (as Francois seems to intend) History+hack is > not at all equivalent. History > +hack is, however, a thorough replacement for Diversion. You > could build > applications that would look much the same to the end user > using History > +hack as you could with service-URI, but the composition logic is > entirely different. I agree. History+Ack reflects only what has happened at SIP level. Diversion and service-URI may be used to reflect things that happen not at SIP level (e.g., PSTN). > > This really brings us back to the debate we've had in this > area from > > day one as to where the service logic is - in the network > or relegated > > to some end application server or user. Basically, we're debating > > whether the redirect server should provide the appropriate service > > specific URIs or whether we put the burden on the end > application to > > decipher the H-I entries. It's been suggested that the latter is > > quite difficult, however, I think that can be debated. I > agree it does > > but an additional burden on the recipient applications and that > > overall IF the service specific URIs are agreed and appropriately > > configured, it is a much simpler solution in terms of > processing for > > the end application. > > Yes, that is the real heart of the question. As I said, I > believe I'm agreeing with what I think Francois is saying > about service-URIs, but I also think History-Info gives us > more capabilities than we seem to be realizing in this discussion. Good. _______________________________________________ Sipping mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipping This list is for NEW development of the application of SIP Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use sip@ietf.org for new developments of core SIP
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Dolly, Martin C, ALABS
- [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-retarg… Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Elwell, John
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Michael Hammer (mhammer)
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Michael Hammer (mhammer)
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Elwell, John
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Elwell, John
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Elwell, John
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… GARCIN Sebastien RD-CORE-ISS
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Elwell, John
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Michael Hammer (mhammer)
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Michael Hammer (mhammer)
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Henry Sinnreich
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Michael Hammer (mhammer)
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Henry Sinnreich
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Elwell, John
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Michael Hammer (mhammer)
- [Sipping] Do we have a problem with History-Info … Dean Willis
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Elwell, John
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Dean Willis
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Elwell, John
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Michael Hammer (mhammer)
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Michael Hammer (mhammer)
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Dean Willis
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Elwell, John
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Francois Audet
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Michael Hammer (mhammer)
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Francois Audet
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Michael Hammer (mhammer)
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Paul Kyzivat
- [Sipping] draft-elwell-sipping-service-retargetin… Dean Willis
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Francois Audet
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Francois Audet
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Michael Hammer (mhammer)
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Francois Audet
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Francois Audet
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Michael Hammer (mhammer)
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Francois Audet
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Francois Audet
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Henry Sinnreich
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Francois Audet
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Francois Audet
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Francois Audet
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sipping] draft-camarillo-sipping-sbc-funcs-0… Dan Wing
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Francois Audet
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Francois Audet
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Elwell, John
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Michael Hammer (mhammer)
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Elwell, John
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Francois Audet
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Dean Willis
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Dean Willis
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Francois Audet
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Francois Audet
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Mary Barnes
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Dean Willis
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Dean Willis
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Mary Barnes
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Francois Audet
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… David R Oran
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Dean Willis
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Dean Willis
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Dean Willis
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Jeroen van Bemmel
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Francois Audet
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Elwell, John
- [Sipping] draft-camarillo-sipping-sbc-funcs-02.txt henry
- Re: [Sipping] draft-camarillo-sipping-sbc-funcs-0… Arjun Roychowdhury
- RE: [Sipping] draft-camarillo-sipping-sbc-funcs-0… henry
- RE: [Sipping] draft-camarillo-sipping-sbc-funcs-0… Medhavi Bhatia
- RE: [Sipping] draft-camarillo-sipping-sbc-funcs-0… henry
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Francois Audet
- RE: [Sipping] draft-camarillo-sipping-sbc-funcs-0… Henry Sinnreich
- Re: [Sipping] draft-camarillo-sipping-sbc-funcs-0… David R Oran
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Dale R. Worley
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Dale R. Worley
- Re: [Sipping] draft-camarillo-sipping-sbc-funcs-0… Gonzalo Camarillo
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-re… Elwell, John