RE: [Sipping] WGLC Review: draft-ietf-sipping-capacity-attribute-01.txt
"Samir Srivastava" <samirsr@nortel.com> Thu, 21 September 2006 19:58 UTC
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Subject: RE: [Sipping] WGLC Review: draft-ietf-sipping-capacity-attribute-01.txt
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Hi Miguel, My concerns were driven by the dynamic nature of cipher technologies. And we have the problems coming from others as SIPS is mentioned as *statically* for the security at numerous places. IMHO, we should have boiler-plate kind of stuff in the security section which takes into the account the security provided by underlying secure protocol layers generically. And then each specification addresses other security aspects for in particular to that specification in the separate paragraph in the Security Considerations. Hopefully, it addresses the concerns of SIPS proponents in future. Thx Samir > -----Original Message----- > From: Miguel Garcia [mailto:Miguel.An.Garcia@nokia.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 3:30 AM > To: Srivastava, Samir (SC100:8826) > Cc: Barnes, Mary (RICH2:B601); Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com; > sipping@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Sipping] WGLC Review: draft-ietf-sipping-capacity-attribute- > 01.txt > > I think the spirit of the text is not to exclude any technology. In > essence, any technology that is able to cypher SIP messages is suitable > to protect privacy. We should probably mention TLS as an example of one > of such technologies. > > /Miguel > > Samir Srivastava wrote: > > Hi, > > > > What is the reason for not considering IPSEC tunnels in the text? DTLS > > is still open issue. So better open-ended text can be phrased like > > > > "... was sent over a secured channel provided by the underlying layers > > e.g. > > TLS, IPSEC ...." > > > > How long we want to carry S/MIME with it's deploy ability issues. If > > still we want to use S/MIME atleast known issues with it should be > > listed similar to 3261. Or reference to section of 3261 should be given. > > > > > > IMHO, SIP message means REQUEST and RESPONSE both. So the text should be > > well aligned like ".... SIP request unless the SIP request ..." or with > > the "message" word. > > > > Thx > > Samir > > > >> - Section 8, 3rd paragraph, 3rd sentence. "was" -> "is" > >> OLD: > >> Eavesdroppers are able to watch URI-lists contained in SIP > >> requests unless the SIP message was sent over a secured channel > > with > >> Transport Layer Security (TLS) [3] or unless the URI-list body > > itself > >> is encrypted with S/MIME [8]. > >> NEW: > >> Eavesdroppers are able to watch URI-lists contained in SIP > >> requests unless the SIP message is sent over a secured channel with > >> Transport Layer Security (TLS) [3] or unless the URI-list body > > itself > >> is encrypted with S/MIME [8]. > >> > > > > -- > Miguel A. Garcia tel:+358-50-4804586 > sip:miguel.garcia@neonsite.net > Nokia Research Center Helsinki, Finland _______________________________________________ Sipping mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipping This list is for NEW development of the application of SIP Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use sip@ietf.org for new developments of core SIP
- [Sipping] WGLC Review: draft-ietf-sipping-capacit… Mary Barnes
- RE: [Sipping] WGLC Review: draft-ietf-sipping-cap… Samir Srivastava
- [Sipping] Re: WGLC Review: draft-ietf-sipping-cap… Miguel Garcia
- Re: [Sipping] WGLC Review: draft-ietf-sipping-cap… Miguel Garcia
- RE: [Sipping] WGLC Review: draft-ietf-sipping-cap… Samir Srivastava
- Re: [Sipping] WGLC Review: draft-ietf-sipping-cap… Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: [Sipping] WGLC Review: draft-ietf-sipping-cap… Dean Willis
- Re: [Sipping] WGLC Review: draft-ietf-sipping-cap… Gonzalo Camarillo