Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-elwell-sipping-service-retargeting-00.txt

Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@cisco.com> Fri, 14 October 2005 23:20 UTC

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Michael Hammer (mhammer) wrote:
> An additional point below. 
> 
> 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Francois Audet [mailto:audet@nortel.com] 
>>Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 6:22 PM
>>To: Michael Hammer (mhammer); sipping
>>Cc: Elwell, John
>>Subject: RE: [Sipping] Re: 
>>draft-elwell-sipping-service-retargeting-00.txt
>>
>>Below...
>>
>>
>>>Are you saying that if History-Info is used and these headers are 
>>>included in the Request URI, that the value contained in the 
>>>"old-target=" parameter will not appear in the History-Info header? 
>>>Does it require one more hop before this information is moved from 
>>>R-URI to History-Info?  Perhaps I misunderstood the timing of the 
>>>insertions.
>>
>>No: if service retargeting is used, and History-Info is used, 
>>the History-Info will record the service retarget as well.
>>
>>That being said:
>>
>>- They will not necessarily match. Most "retargets" in SIP
>>  are 302 ("Moved"). It says nothing about the reason (Busy,
>>  Always, etc.). 
> 
> 
> I think it is possible to receive a 302 with Reason header saying 486.
> Is it ambiguous as to whether 302, 486, or both should be indicated in
> the H-I header?  

I think it is clear in the H-I draft that in this case 486 goes into the 
H-I.

> Is it clear in retargeting which would be used?
> 
> I would have thought that the VM service would be most concerned with
> the last line of H-I only, since that would be the one that would be
> equivalent to what is put in R-URI.  If the 302 v 486 business is
> settled, then perhaps it would be the last non-3xx header that is of
> interest.
> 
> Hopefully, no SBC will muck with either R-URI params or the H-I header.

Right! When they think their purpose in life is to ensure that nobody 
knows the topology of the network???

	Paul

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